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From: "Thomas Pfaff" <thomas@cs.sonoma.edu>
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Subject: Milton Bradley LightFight from 1981
Date: 2 Dec 1996 01:40:21 GMT
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Hi.

This isn't exactly a Vectrex question but hope I hope it will be
interesting since at least it is a Milton Bradley related question.

I bought a neat game today called LightFight that was made by Milton
Bradley in 1981.  It is cool.  It came in a box that's about the same size
as a board game.  It can host two to four players.  There is a 5 x 5 matrix
of LEDs in the center of the game.  Towards each of the four corners of the
game (it's rectangular) there is a set of five contact switches, one or two
for each player depending on the game play.  Each of the switches is
visually (not physically) connected to a row of LEDs.  The "computer" has
the opponents race against each other trying to accomplish various tasks on
the grid.

One thing that I noticed about it is that the labels on the game remind me
of the overlays that appear on a Vectrex game.  Different game, same
company, similar cosmetics!

Has anyone else got a copy of this game?  I've seen Vectrexes galore but
never an "Electronic LightFight."

Thomas

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Subject: Milton Bradley Lightfight from 1981
Date: 2 Dec 1996 01:41:01 GMT
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Hi.

This isn't exactly a Vectrex question but hope I hope it will be
interesting since at least it is a Milton Bradley related question.

I bought a neat game today called LightFight that was made by Milton
Bradley in 1981.  It is cool.  It came in a box that's about the same size
as a board game.  It can host two to four players.  There is a 5 x 5 matrix
of LEDs in the center of the game.  Towards each of the four corners of the
game (it's rectangular) there is a set of five contact switches, one or two
for each player depending on the game play.  Each of the switches is
visually (not physically) connected to a row of LEDs.  The "computer" has
the opponents race against each other trying to accomplish various tasks on
the grid.

One thing that I noticed about it is that the labels on the game remind me
of the overlays that appear on a Vectrex game.  Different game, same
company, similar cosmetics!

Has anyone else got a copy of this game?  I've seen Vectrexes galore but
never an "Electronic LightFight."

Thomas

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From: Tony Silveira <silveira@apple.com>
Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex,rec.games.video.marketplace,rec.games.video.classic,alt.video.games,alt.games.video.classic
Subject: VECTREX AUCTION (12/1)
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Here is what is remaining from my last auction.

I am only interested in Jaguar games (complete) for trade and only 
games off of the following list:
Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure
Ultra Vortek
Myst (CD)
Pinball Fantasies 
Baldies (CD) 
Fever Pitch
Zoop! 
I-War

All items are in great shape except where noted.  

C=Cart, I=Instruction, B=Box, O=Overlay

******************************************************
1.  System w/ box, manual (has some wear), MineStorm overlay, MineStorm
     manual,  Safety precaution insert and both styrofome inserts.  Box
has 
     quiet a bit of wear and one of the flaps is torn off (needs to be
taped 
     back).  Controller and system in great shape.   
     MIN $100-----BUYOUT $160

2.  Armor Attack---O   MIN $5-----BUYOUT $10

3.  Bedlam---C,I   MIN $8-----BUYOUT $15

4.  Bedlam---C    MIN $5-----BUYOUT $10
 
5.  Berzerk---C,I,B,O   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $25
     Box has normal wear and a 2" X 4" red price tag on the front

6.  Blitz---C,I,B,O   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $25
     Box has normal wear

7.  Blitz---I   Min $3-----BUYOUT $7

8. Clean Sweep---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

9. Cosmic Chasm---C,I,B,O  MIN $15-----BUYOUT $25
     Box has extensive wear

10. Cosmic Chasm---C,I   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $20
                
11. Fortress of Narzod---C   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $25

12. Fortress of Narzod---C   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $25

13. Heads Up---C,I   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $20

14. Hyperchase---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

15. Rip Off---C,I   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $20

16. Scramble---C,I,B   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $20
      box has clear tape over the front and back and no plastic insert

17. Solar Quest---C,I,B,O   MIN $15-----BUYOUT $30
      box has small tear (2" X 3") exposing cardboard wear price 
      tag used to be

18. Solar Quest---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

19. Space War---C,I,O   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $25

20. Space War---I  MIN $5-----BUYOUT $8

21. Spike---C,I,O   MIN $15-----BUYOUT $30

22. Spike---I   MIN $5-----BUYOUT $10

23. Star Castle---C,I   MIN $15-----BUYOUT $25

24. Star Hawk---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

25. Star Trek---I   MIN $3-----BUYOUT $7
      Front cover is faded

26. Minestorm 3-d---C,I   MIN $25-----BUYOUT $35

27. Crazy Coaster---I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

28. Narrow Escape---I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15


****************Rules of Auction/Trade********************

1.  bids will only be accepted by email:   silveira@apple.com
2.  bid incriments:
     up to-$20  --  $1
     $20-$50  --  $2
     $50 or more  --  $3
3.  buyer agrees to pay in advance by Money order or Bank check (sorry,
     no personal checks).
4.  Buyer also pays shipping (I get corporate FedEx pricing at work,
     about $6 for 2-day, shipping may vary depending on size of 
     shipment, the console will probably be about $20 2-day.  
     Instrucions; catalogs; etc. will be shipped via post office mail, 
     a couple of stamps in other words).
5.  I reserve the right to pull any item before saying sold.
6.  I will try to post updates on Monday, Wednesday and Friday nights.
7.  This will be an open auction until Decmber 15th at which time it
     will revert to a once, twice, sold auction.  After Dec. 15th, only 
     people who have bid in the past may place a bid.  This part of the 
     auction will last 4 days only.
8.  Payment must be received after 10 days of buyer being notified. 
     Item(s) will be shipped within 24 hrs and buyer will be notified 
     via email when it ships.
9.  When someone is outbid, they will be notified via email within
      24hrs (as will everyone else who submits a bid).
10. I reserve the right to add rules (I'm writing this late at night and
      might be forgetting something  ;)
11. In the case of tie bids, the first bid received will be considered 
      the winner.
12. When someone states an interest in buying out an item but would like 
      to inquire about the condition, that item will be on hold for a
day.  If 
      another buyout bid arrives BEFORE that 24 hr. period is up, that
new 
      bid will be considered the SECOND bid.  The original inquiree will
have 
      24 hrs. after I send an email to them to let me know if they would 
      like that item.  After said 24 hrs., that buyout "hold" will be
forfeited 
      and the item will be available for any bid that may have been
received.

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From: jasonbar@rose.ucsb.edu (Jason D. Bardis)
Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex
Subject: Vectrex Zanen kit for sale
Date: 1 Dec 1996 23:44:08 -0800
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Howdy

Well, I was making a semi-big order to Zanen for a handful of get-well
kits for my arcade game monitors and I figured I'd grab a Vectrex cap
kit while I was at it, even though my Vec has a good screen (a little
jittery around the edges, but not much).

Well, sat down to install it tonight and discovered that the Vectrex is a
real bitch to get apart--a lot of hard-to-get-to screws and it seems that
the bottom board is too hard for me to get out, what w/ it being attached
to the various knobs & connectors on the front side of the box.


Anyway, rather than push my luck and make an ok monitor worse (as I just
did w/ my Defender...grrrrrrr), I decided to abort.

The kit cost me $9.95 + shipping.  Totally unused and untouched.  I'd
like to sell it off to someone who doesn't mind getting down & dirty w/
tearing apart their Vectrex or who really needs serious monitor help.

$10 shipped.

Thanks
-Jason
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From: svoorhis <svoorhis@sundance.usd.edu>
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Subject: vectrex unit and games for sale
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 11:42:16 -0800
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Have vectrex unit and following games for sale.

Polar Rescue
Armour Attack
Star Trek
Web Wars
Scramble
Light Pen

All have been purchased by myself in the early 80's at Ramstein AFB in
Germany and are in original boxes. Boxes are by no means in mint
condition (they aren't torn to hell, either).

Will entertain any reasonable offers, plus shipping costs.

Todd

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From: svoorhis <svoorhis@sundance.usd.edu>
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Subject: Re: vectrex unit and games for sale
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 11:44:31 -0800
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svoorhis wrote:
> 
> Have vectrex unit and following games for sale.
> 
> Polar Rescue
> Armour Attack
> Star Trek
> Web Wars
> Scramble
> Light Pen
> 
> All have been purchased by myself in the early 80's at Ramstein AFB in
> Germany and are in original boxes. Boxes are by no means in mint
> condition (they aren't torn to hell, either).
> 
> Will entertain any reasonable offers, plus shipping costs.
> 
> Todd
 
In regards to the following post, please respond to
twestin@sunbird.usd.edu.

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From: Barbara Killoren <105351.2012@CompuServe.COM>
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Subject: FS Vectrex goggles
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My ex husband left tons of his video game stuff here and I don't 
want it. I have seen great interest in this Vectrex game. I have 
a 3-D goggles in the original box. The goggles do work as I have 
seen the ex play with them a couple of months ago. They are in 
great shape but missing the small foam strip for your forehead. 
The box is in excellent condition with the styrofoam insert, a 
wheel thing and a cartridge (minestorm).  Due to the prices I 
have seen for this stuff I would like at least $300.00 for them. 
If this is too high or too low you can let me know. If you want 
more info please email me.

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From: Gordon Glenn <gaglenn@ix.netcom.com>
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Subject: Re: FS Vectrex goggles
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Barbara Killoren wrote:
> 
> My ex husband left tons of his video game stuff here and I don't
> want it. I have seen great interest in this Vectrex game. I have
> a 3-D goggles in the original box. The goggles do work as I have
> seen the ex play with them a couple of months ago. They are in
> great shape but missing the small foam strip for your forehead.
> The box is in excellent condition with the styrofoam insert, a
> wheel thing and a cartridge (minestorm).  Due to the prices I
> have seen for this stuff I would like at least $300.00 for them.
> If this is too high or too low you can let me know. If you want
> more info please email me.

Ummm...  Did your ex give you title to his stuff, or give you
permission to sell it?  I would hate to obtain it then be sued
later for purchasing something he did not agree to sell.

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From: magnus@x-net.net (Magnus)
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On Wed, 04 Dec 1996 22:06:19 -0800, Gordon Glenn
<gaglenn@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Barbara Killoren wrote:
>> 
>> My ex husband left tons of his video game stuff here and I don't
>> want it. I have seen great interest in this Vectrex game. I have
>> a 3-D goggles in the original box. The goggles do work as I have
>> seen the ex play with them a couple of months ago. They are in
>> great shape but missing the small foam strip for your forehead.
>> The box is in excellent condition with the styrofoam insert, a
>> wheel thing and a cartridge (minestorm).  Due to the prices I
>> have seen for this stuff I would like at least $300.00 for them.
>> If this is too high or too low you can let me know. If you want
>> more info please email me.
>
>Ummm...  Did your ex give you title to his stuff, or give you
>permission to sell it?  I would hate to obtain it then be sued
>later for purchasing something he did not agree to sell.

Gezz Gordon, I doubt you'd be sued...

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From: Tony Silveira <silveira@apple.com>
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Subject: Vectrex Auction (12/5)
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(12/5)  Buyouts are at the end of the list.  Item #'s 19, 23, 28
        have been bought out

Here is what is remaining from my last auction.

I am only interested in Jaguar games (complete) for trade and only 
games off of the following list:
Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure
Ultra Vortek
Myst (CD)
Pinball Fantasies 
Baldies (CD) 
Fever Pitch
Zoop! 
I-War

All items are in great shape except where noted.  

C=Cart, I=Instruction, B=Box, O=Overlay

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1.  System w/ box, manual (has some wear), MineStorm overlay, 
    MineStorm manual,  Safety precaution insert and both styrofome 
    inserts.  Box has quiet a bit of wear and one of the flaps is torn 
    off (needs to be taped back).  Controller and system in great
shape.   
    MIN $100-----BUYOUT $160

2.  Armor Attack---O   MIN $5-----BUYOUT $10
     BID $6-----jefyrnsmyr@aol.com

3.  Bedlam---C,I   MIN $8-----BUYOUT $15

4.  Bedlam---C    MIN $5-----BUYOUT $10
 
5.  Berzerk---C,I,B,O   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $25
    Box has normal wear and a 2" X 4" red price tag on the front

6.  Blitz---C,I,B,O   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $25
    Box has normal wear

7.  Blitz---I   Min $3-----BUYOUT $7

8.  Clean Sweep---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

9.  Cosmic Chasm---C,I,B,O  MIN $15-----BUYOUT $25
    Box has extensive wear

10. Cosmic Chasm---C,I   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $20
                
11. Fortress of Narzod---C   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $25

12. Fortress of Narzod---C   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $25

13. Heads Up---C,I   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $20

14. Hyperchase---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

15. Rip Off---C,I   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $20

16. Scramble---C,I,B   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $20
    box has clear tape over the front and back and no plastic insert

17. Solar Quest---C,I,B,O   MIN $15-----BUYOUT $30
    box has small tear (2" X 3") exposing cardboard wear price 
    tag used to be

18. Solar Quest---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

20. Space War---I  MIN $5-----BUYOUT $8

21. Spike---C,I,O   MIN $15-----BUYOUT $30

22. Spike---I   MIN $5-----BUYOUT $10

24. Star Hawk---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

25. Star Trek---I   MIN $3-----BUYOUT $7
    Front cover is faded

26. Minestorm 3-d---C,I   MIN $25-----BUYOUT $35

27. Crazy Coaster---I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15


****************Rules of Auction/Trade********************

1.  bids will only be accepted by email:   silveira@apple.com
2.  bid incriments:
     up to-$20  --  $1
     $20-$50  --  $2
     $50 or more  --  $3
3.  buyer agrees to pay in advance by Money order or Bank check (sorry,
     no personal checks).
4.  Buyer also pays shipping (I get corporate FedEx pricing at work,
     about $6 for 2-day, shipping may vary depending on size of 
     shipment, the console will probably be about $20 2-day.  
     Instrucions; catalogs; etc. will be shipped via post office mail, 
     a couple of stamps in other words).
5.  I reserve the right to pull any item before saying sold.
6.  I will try to post updates on Monday, Wednesday and Friday nights.
7.  This will be an open auction until Decmber 15th at which time it
     will revert to a once, twice, sold auction.  After Dec. 15th, only 
     people who have bid in the past may place a bid.  This part of the 
     auction will last 4 days only.
8.  Payment must be received after 10 days of buyer being notified. 
     Item(s) will be shipped within 24 hrs and buyer will be notified 
     via email when it ships.
9.  When someone is outbid, they will be notified via email within
      24hrs (as will everyone else who submits a bid).
10. I reserve the right to add rules (I'm writing this late at night and
      might be forgetting something  ;)
11. In the case of tie bids, the first bid received will be considered 
      the winner.
12. When someone states an interest in buying out an item but would 
     like to inquire about the condition, that item will be on hold for
a 
     day.  If another buyout bid arrives BEFORE that 24 hr. period is
up, 
     that new bid will be considered the SECOND bid.  The original 
     inquiree will have 24 hrs. after I send an email to them to let me 
     know if they would like that item.  After said 24 hrs., that buyout 
     "hold" will be forfeited and the item will be available for any bid 
     that may have been received.


****************Buyouts********************

19. Space War---C,I,O   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $25
      BUYOUT BID!-----rlj@algonet.se

23. Star Castle---C,I   MIN $15-----BUYOUT $25
      BUYOUT BID!-----rlj@algonet.se

28. Narrow Escape---I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15
     BUYOUT!-----Werner.Bleys@ping.be

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Magnus wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 04 Dec 1996 22:06:19 -0800, Gordon Glenn
> <gaglenn@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Barbara Killoren wrote:
> >>
> >> My ex husband left tons of his video game stuff here and I don't
> >> want it. I have seen great interest in this Vectrex game. I have
> >> a 3-D goggles in the original box. The goggles do work as I have
> >> seen the ex play with them a couple of months ago. They are in
> >> great shape but missing the small foam strip for your forehead.
> >> The box is in excellent condition with the styrofoam insert, a
> >> wheel thing and a cartridge (minestorm).  Due to the prices I
> >> have seen for this stuff I would like at least $300.00 for them.
> >> If this is too high or too low you can let me know. If you want
> >> more info please email me.
> >
> >Ummm...  Did your ex give you title to his stuff, or give you
> >permission to sell it?  I would hate to obtain it then be sued
> >later for purchasing something he did not agree to sell.
> 
> Gezz Gordon, I doubt you'd be sued...

Evidently, this person has never seen a bad divorce and the inhuman
animals that are generated during its course.


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From: Gordon Glenn <gaglenn@ix.netcom.com>
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Magnus wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 04 Dec 1996 22:06:19 -0800, Gordon Glenn
> <gaglenn@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Barbara Killoren wrote:
> >>
> >> My ex husband left tons of his video game stuff here and I don't
> >> want it. I have seen great interest in this Vectrex game. I have
> >> a 3-D goggles in the original box. The goggles do work as I have
> >> seen the ex play with them a couple of months ago. They are in
> >> great shape but missing the small foam strip for your forehead.
> >> The box is in excellent condition with the styrofoam insert, a
> >> wheel thing and a cartridge (minestorm).  Due to the prices I
> >> have seen for this stuff I would like at least $300.00 for them.
> >> If this is too high or too low you can let me know. If you want
> >> more info please email me.
> >
> >Ummm...  Did your ex give you title to his stuff, or give you
> >permission to sell it?  I would hate to obtain it then be sued
> >later for purchasing something he did not agree to sell.
> 
> Gezz Gordon, I doubt you'd be sued...

No one would sue me, because I am an attorney and could defend myself.
But to some poor shlep out there who does not know anything, I would not
want to be on the wrong end of a husband gone psycho because his
Vectrex was sold without his permission.

Gordon

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Gordon Glenn wrote:
> 
> Magnus wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 04 Dec 1996 22:06:19 -0800, Gordon Glenn
> > <gaglenn@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Barbara Killoren wrote:
> > >>
> > >> My ex husband left tons of his video game stuff here and I don't
> > >> want it. I have seen great interest in this Vectrex game. I have
> > >> a 3-D goggles in the original box. The goggles do work as I have
> > >> seen the ex play with them a couple of months ago. They are in
> > >> great shape but missing the small foam strip for your forehead.
> > >> The box is in excellent condition with the styrofoam insert, a
> > >> wheel thing and a cartridge (minestorm).  Due to the prices I
> > >> have seen for this stuff I would like at least $300.00 for them.
> > >> If this is too high or too low you can let me know. If you want
> > >> more info please email me.
> > >
> > >Ummm...  Did your ex give you title to his stuff, or give you
> > >permission to sell it?  I would hate to obtain it then be sued
> > >later for purchasing something he did not agree to sell.
> >
> > Gezz Gordon, I doubt you'd be sued...
> 
> No one would sue me, because I am an attorney and could defend myself.
> But to some poor shlep out there who does not know anything, I would not
> want to be on the wrong end of a husband gone psycho because his
> Vectrex was sold without his permission.
> 
> Gordon

Does this whole thing remind anyone of the story of the lady who
was selling a Porsche for $50...  When some guy bought it and asked
her why it was so cheap, she said "My husband ran away with his
secretary, he said to just sell all of his stuff and send him
the money..."

Great story.  How about $50 for the goggles?

-- 
----------------------------------------
Stephen M. Platt, Ph. D.
Research and Development
National Software Testing Laboratories
  A Division of the McGraw-Hill Companies

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From: aquarius@aracnet.com (Chris Stafford)
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Subject: ** FS: "HEADS UP" $30.00 **
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Hi,

* I have a Vectrex "Heads Up" cartridge without box or overlay: 

- Good condition with a nice, shiny, untorn, umarred label..
- $30.00, shipping included in the Continental U.S. of A...


                                                                                                                    
Chris..

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vectrex console + additional controller 7 carts light pen 
and art master.all boxed original condition (lightpen & art master no 
box).
carts:- Armor Attack,Blitz,Soccer-Football,Scramble,Solar Quest,Space
War,Rip Off.

Offers ( in pounds sterling if possible)

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From: Greg H <ghille@dwpcpo2.dreamworks.com>
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Thomas Pfaff wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> This isn't exactly a Vectrex question but hope I hope it will be
> interesting since at least it is a Milton Bradley related question.
> 
> I bought a neat game today called LightFight that was made by Milton
> Bradley in 1981.  It is cool.  It came in a box that's about the same size
> as a board game.  It can host two to four players.  There is a 5 x 5 matrix
> of LEDs in the center of the game.  Towards each of the four corners of the
> game (it's rectangular) there is a set of five contact switches, one or two
> for each player depending on the game play.  Each of the switches is
> visually (not physically) connected to a row of LEDs.  The "computer" has
> the opponents race against each other trying to accomplish various tasks on
> the grid.
> 
> One thing that I noticed about it is that the labels on the game remind me
> of the overlays that appear on a Vectrex game.  Different game, same
> company, similar cosmetics!
> 
> Has anyone else got a copy of this game?  I've seen Vectrexes galore but
> never an "Electronic LightFight."
> 
> Thomas
I have a copy of this game also. It's still found once in a while at
thriftshops and garage sales.
It sort of falls into the cracks like a lot of "electronic" games of
this era...Blip...Simon...etc.

-- 
Later,
	Greg

In the year 2084 man perfects the ROBOTRONS a robot species so
       advanced that man is inferior to his own creation

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Subject: FS: Vectrex + 10 carts
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1 Vectrex system, 1 controller, original box (small hole on one side),
owner's manual, all manuals are in very good condition at best

includes the following:
Minestorm overlay
Armor Attack cart, overlay
Berzerk cart, overlay
Blitz cart, overlay, manual
Cosmic Chasm cart, overlay, manual
Heads Up cart, overlay
Hyper Chase cart, overlay
Scramble cart, overlay, manual
Solar Quest cart, overlay
Spike cart, overlay, manual
Spinball cart, overlay (chipped-lower left), manual

$150 + postage for everything or best offer.  Please send any questions
or offers to tofull@ix.netcom.com

-Todd Fuller
tofull@ix.netcom.com
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I bought lightfight back when it first came out and I smoked everybody
on it. It was really only made for two players but I suppose you could
use four if each player only used one hand. I might still have it if it
didn't get trashed.

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With Sean Kelly being able to continue
supplying me with Vectrex cart boards, I
have decided to continue developing new
Vectrex games next year.

With the busy holiday season, I have little
free time, but in January I'll be doing the 4K
freebie game, then probably go back into
Colecovision and return to the Vectrex with
a planned summer release.

If you didn't know about the new Vectrex
games, then here's some light reading for you !

NEW VECTREX GAMES FAQ v3.0
--------------------------

Q.      I heard there are new games being made for the Vectrex
        Arcade System. Is this true ?

A.      Yes, It is true.

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Q.      What are the games ?

A.      There are currently 3 games, they are called Vector Vaders,
        Patriots and All Good Things.

        Vector Vaders is an "Invaders" type game. Nothing more, nothing
        less. 

        Patriots is a "Missile Command" type game, however it is much
        faster and flashier than its predecessors.

        All Good Things is a 16K cart containing 4 games plus a secret
        hidden game.

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Q.      What else can you tell me about Vector Vaders ?

A.      Vector Vaders is the first new Vectrex game in over 12 years.
        It was programmed by independent programmer John Dondzila. The
        bulk code of the game was written in 4 days, approximately
        14 hours straight each day. The remainder of the code and testing
        was done in another 6 days (about 4 hours per day).

        As being new to the Vectrex, a lot of the code is unoptimized. Also,
        due to hardware restrictions of the Vectrex (drawing too many
        vectors at once), the game suffers from some minor slowdown and
        screen flicker.

        Vector Vaders is your typical "Invaders" type game, where the
        invaders start at the top of the screen and march left and right.
        At the screen bottom is your base, which you move left and right and
        shoot lasers at the invaders. You have 4 bunkers to hide behind.

        The mystery point saucer is there, as well as all the standard
        point scoring.

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Q.      What else can you tell me about Patriots ?

A.      Patriots is John Dondzila's second game for the Vectrex. The code
        is completely optimized and far superior to the previous game.
        Screen flicker is nearly non-existent and only shows up during the
        more intense parts of the game.
        The game is fast, with lots of action, explosions and sound
        effects. The author has received many compliments for this title
        and many quotes of it being "the best Vectrex game ever...".

        Again, this is a "Missile Command" style game. You protect six 
        cities with your 2 Patriot missile launchers. You move a targeting
        crosshair with the joystick and fire Patriots at incoming enemy
        missiles. Enemy saucers and planes come along and release more 
        missiles, as well as smart missiles which can evade your Patriots.

        Patriots is a true collectors piece. Each game cart is numbered and
        signed by the author. The number is also included when you see the
        title screen of the game. The purchaser of the game also gets
        his/her name programmed into the game, so he/she will also see
        "CUSTOM PRODUCED FOR your name" when the begins.

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        All Good Things is the third new creation for the Vectrex. It's the
        world's first 16K Vectrex game ever released and it's packed
        with some very "Good Things".

        There are four complete games in one cart, plus a secret bonus
        game hidden somewhere for you to find.

        The games included are:

        (1) Rockaroids -                "Asteroids" clone
                                        Some heavy revisions were done and
                                        this is will most likely be your
                                        favorite !

        (2) More Invaders -             "Space Invaders Deluxe" clone
                                        It had to be done. The way I wanted
                                        Vector Vaders to originally look.
                                        More invaders, speed and action !

        (3) Vectris -                   "Tetris" clone
                                        Another had to be done. A bit
                                        flickery, but now just about every
                                        system has one.

        (4) Spike's Water Balloons -    "Kaboom/Mad Bomber" clone
                                        This might even be a bigger favorite
                                        than Rockaroids !
                                        
        (5) ???                         Secret Puzzle Game
                                        What can it be ?
                                        How do you find it ?
                                        This time I'm not telling a soul !

        Each game cart is custom programmed with a serial number and your
        own name which you can view on the introduction screen !

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Q.      What do these games cost and how do I get them ?

A.      Each game is twenty ($20.00) dollars US currency. Shipping is
        included within the continental USA. There is an additional charge
        for shipping outside the US (about $3.00 for Canadian, $4.00
        Europe).

        You get a cartridge, sturdy plastic box with color insert (black
        & white for Vector Vaders) and instructions.

        You can get them directly from John Dondzila by sending a check or
        money order to:

        John Dondzila
        22 Harold Street 
        Old Bridge, New Jersey  08857

        Since these games are made to order, it takes 7-10 days from
        receipt of payment before they are shipped.

        For orders outside the US, contact John Dondzila first before
        sending payment.

        Please be sure to print legibly your name and the address you want 
        the game shipped to. Several orders were delayed until the correct 
        address could be verified.

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        Q. Is there any more you can tell me ?

        A. You can always visit JD's home page at
           http://www.crisp.net/home/pcjohn/index.html
           for up to date info as well as other programming and
           classic game projects. There is also some information
           on how the games were developed.

           You can contact the author via E-Mail at pcjohn@crisp.net

           If you live in or near New Jersey, you can visit Video
           Game Connections. This is a classic and current video game
           store. There is a Vectrex on display with a copy of "All Good
           Things", as well as the other Vectrex games.

           The store is in Howell, NJ. Contact them at (908)462-8343
           for more information or visit their web page at
           http://members.aol.com/vidgamec/

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I just got my first Vectrex in the mail today, and had one quick
question about it.  It mades a wierd humming noise through the speaker.
It's always at a constant level too, adjusting the volume does nothing.
Does anyone out there have a clue as to what might cause this?  It seems
like some sort of power interference problem, but I'm new to the Vectrex
so it's only a guess. Thanks!

Clarke Russell

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In article <32AE25C9.E45@X-Net.Net>, By-Tor@X-Net.Net wrote:

> I just got my first Vectrex in the mail today, and had one quick
> question about it.  It mades a wierd humming noise through the speaker.
> It's always at a constant level too, adjusting the volume does nothing.
> Does anyone out there have a clue as to what might cause this?  It seems
> like some sort of power interference problem, but I'm new to the Vectrex
> so it's only a guess. Thanks!

That, my friend, is the sweet, sweet song of the Vectrex.  Soon you will
grow to love this beautifully hypnotic tune as we all have.

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In article <wolfgang-1112960109100001@dnet03-04.sat.texas.net>, wolfgang@texas.net (wolfgang) wrote:
>In article <32AE25C9.E45@X-Net.Net>, By-Tor@X-Net.Net wrote:
>
>> I just got my first Vectrex in the mail today, and had one quick
>> question about it.  It mades a wierd humming noise through the speaker.
>> It's always at a constant level too, adjusting the volume does nothing.
>> Does anyone out there have a clue as to what might cause this?  It seems
>> like some sort of power interference problem, but I'm new to the Vectrex
>> so it's only a guess. Thanks!

Where did you get a Vectrex through the mail?

Scott
(still kicking himself for passing one up for $20 at a thrift shop years ago)


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From: Pauldb@cris.com (Paul-David)
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Subject: Re: Question about my new Vectrex
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Get the FAQ. It explains this in detail.


Clarke Russell (By-Tor@X-Net.Net) wrote:
: I just got my first Vectrex in the mail today, and had one quick
: question about it.  It mades a wierd humming noise through the speaker.
: It's always at a constant level too, adjusting the volume does nothing.
: Does anyone out there have a clue as to what might cause this?  It seems
: like some sort of power interference problem, but I'm new to the Vectrex
: so it's only a guess. Thanks!
: 
: Clarke Russell

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From: tomheroes@aol.com (TomHeroes)
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Subject: Re: The New Vectrex Games Will Keep On Coming ....
Date: 11 Dec 1996 12:37:15 GMT
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I can give a testimonial on the first two games.  Having bought both of
them and played them extensively, I can attest to their quality.  Vector
Vaders is a very good Space Invaders clone and provides a challenge.

Patriots is the best Vectrex game out there bar none!  This is the one
game I always play when I fire up the Vectrex.  Nothing short of awesome! 


I haven't played the third pack yet, but will get it real soon!  For the
low price he charges, these games are worthwhile.  Patriots would be a
bargain at twice the price.  Honest!

-Tom Zjaba
tomheroes@aol.com

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wolfgang (wolfgang@texas.net) wrote:
: In article <32AE25C9.E45@X-Net.Net>, By-Tor@X-Net.Net wrote:

: > I just got my first Vectrex in the mail today, and had one quick
: > question about it.  It mades a wierd humming noise through the speaker.
: > It's always at a constant level too, adjusting the volume does nothing.
: > Does anyone out there have a clue as to what might cause this?  It seems
: > like some sort of power interference problem, but I'm new to the Vectrex
: > so it's only a guess. Thanks!

: That, my friend, is the sweet, sweet song of the Vectrex.  Soon you will
: grow to love this beautifully hypnotic tune as we all have.

Ah, obviously some new usage of the term "love" of which I was previously 
unaware.  The hum is pretty wicked, but but it adds some nostalga feeling 
to playing on the vectrex.  Back in the old days, when new technology was 
cool, when we didn't know where it was taking us but we were ready for the
adventure. 
--
Michael Packard
Lord Generic Productions                           
lgp@exo.com http://exo.com/~lgp                      



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TomHeroes (tomheroes@aol.com) wrote:

: Patriots is the best Vectrex game out there bar none!  This is the one
: game I always play when I fire up the Vectrex.  Nothing short of awesome! 

I completely agree.  Patriots is very very cool.  I play it on the 
emulator, which doesn't buzz like my vectrex does.  It and Solar Quest 
are my favorite games.

--
Michael Packard
Lord Generic Productions                           
lgp@exo.com http://exo.com/~lgp                      
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Paul-David wrote:
> 
> Get the FAQ. It explains this in detail.
> 
> Clarke Russell (By-Tor@X-Net.Net) wrote:
> : I just got my first Vectrex in the mail today, and had one quick
> : question about it.  It mades a wierd humming noise through the speaker.
> : It's always at a constant level too, adjusting the volume does nothing.
> : Does anyone out there have a clue as to what might cause this?  It seems
> : like some sort of power interference problem, but I'm new to the Vectrex
> : so it's only a guess. Thanks!
> :
> : Clarke Russell

Great!  where....  <G>...

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(12/12)  I am extending the auction until Dec. 20th.  I have not 
         had the time to put into it as I thought I would.

(12/5)  Buyouts are at the end of the list.  Item #'s 19, 23, 28
        have been bought out

Here is what is remaining from my last auction.

I am only interested in Jaguar games (complete) for trade and only 
games off of the following list:
Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure
Ultra Vortek
Myst (CD)
Pinball Fantasies 
Baldies (CD) 
Fever Pitch
Zoop! 
I-War

All items are in great shape except where noted.  

C=Cart, I=Instruction, B=Box, O=Overlay

******************************************************
1.  System w/ box, manual (has some wear), MineStorm overlay, 
    MineStorm manual,  Safety precaution insert and both styrofome 
    inserts.  Box has quiet a bit of wear and one of the flaps is torn 
    off (needs to be taped back).  Controller and system in great
shape.   
    MIN $100-----BUYOUT $160
    BID $110-----treinschmi@aol.com

2.  Armor Attack---O   MIN $5-----BUYOUT $10
     BID $6-----jefyrnsmyr@aol.com

3.  Bedlam---C,I   MIN $8-----BUYOUT $15

4.  Bedlam---C    MIN $5-----BUYOUT $10
 
5.  Berzerk---C,I,B,O   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $25
    Box has normal wear and a 2" X 4" red price tag on the front
    BID $13-----treinschmi@aol.com

6.  Blitz---C,I,B,O   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $25
    Box has normal wear
    BID $13-----treinschmi@aol.com

7.  Blitz---I   Min $3-----BUYOUT $7

8.  Clean Sweep---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

9.  Cosmic Chasm---C,I,B,O  MIN $15-----BUYOUT $25
    Box has extensive wear
    BID $16-----treinschmi@aol.com

10. Cosmic Chasm---C,I   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $20
                
11. Fortress of Narzod---C   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $25
     BID $10-----Squirmles@aol.com

12. Fortress of Narzod---C   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $25

13. Heads Up---C,I   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $20
    BID $10-----rlj@algonet.se

14. Hyperchase---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

15. Rip Off---C,I   MIN $10-----BUYOUT $20

16. Scramble---C,I,B   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $20
    box has clear tape over the front and back and no plastic insert

17. Solar Quest---C,I,B,O   MIN $15-----BUYOUT $30
    box has small tear (2" X 3") exposing cardboard wear price 
    tag used to be
    BID $16-----treinschmi@aol.com

18. Solar Quest---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

20. Space War---I  MIN $5-----BUYOUT $8

21. Spike---C,I,O   MIN $15-----BUYOUT $30

22. Spike---I   MIN $5-----BUYOUT $10

24. Star Hawk---C,I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15

25. Star Trek---I   MIN $3-----BUYOUT $7
    Front cover is faded
    BID $3-----deni1@aol.com

26. Minestorm 3-d---C,I   MIN $25-----BUYOUT $35
    BID $26-----treinschmi@aol.com

27. Crazy Coaster---I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15


****************Rules of Auction/Trade********************

1.  bids will only be accepted by email:   silveira@apple.com
2.  bid incriments:
     up to-$20  --  $1
     $20-$50  --  $2
     $50 or more  --  $3
3.  buyer agrees to pay in advance by Money order or Bank check (sorry,
     no personal checks).
4.  Buyer also pays shipping (I get corporate FedEx pricing at work,
     about $6 for 2-day, shipping may vary depending on size of 
     shipment, the console will probably be about $20 2-day.  
     Instrucions; catalogs; etc. will be shipped via post office mail, 
     a couple of stamps in other words).
5.  I reserve the right to pull any item before saying sold.
6.  I will try to post updates on Monday, Wednesday and Friday nights.
7.  This will be an open auction until Decmber 15th at which time it
     will revert to a once, twice, sold auction.  After Dec. 15th, only 
     people who have bid in the past may place a bid.  This part of the 
     auction will last 4 days only.
8.  Payment must be received after 10 days of buyer being notified. 
     Item(s) will be shipped within 24 hrs and buyer will be notified 
     via email when it ships.
9.  When someone is outbid, they will be notified via email within
      24hrs (as will everyone else who submits a bid).
10. I reserve the right to add rules (I'm writing this late at night and
      might be forgetting something  ;)
11. In the case of tie bids, the first bid received will be considered 
      the winner.
12. When someone states an interest in buying out an item but would 
     like to inquire about the condition, that item will be on hold for
a 
     day.  If another buyout bid arrives BEFORE that 24 hr. period is
up, 
     that new bid will be considered the SECOND bid.  The original 
     inquiree will have 24 hrs. after I send an email to them to let me 
     know if they would like that item.  After said 24 hrs., that buyout 
     "hold" will be forfeited and the item will be available for any bid 
     that may have been received.


****************Buyouts********************

19. Space War---C,I,O   MIN $12-----BUYOUT $25
      BUYOUT BID!-----rlj@algonet.se

23. Star Castle---C,I   MIN $15-----BUYOUT $25
      BUYOUT BID!-----rlj@algonet.se

28. Narrow Escape---I   MIN $7-----BUYOUT $15
     BUYOUT!-----Werner.Bleys@ping.be

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From: cshamis@mail.syspac.com (Chris Shamis)
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Subject: Vect-PC-Link-Cart
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Silly question for the techies out there.

Is it possible to create a cart that could link your vectrex to the PC's
serial or parrellell port.

Its just a hack, but man would it be cool to use the Vec's stroke display
from the PC.  :)  Running linux of course.  :)

Or maybey even come up with a cart that has a few K in it that allows to do
some simple custom programming.  Hmm... Im getting a little ahead of
myself... A cart that could talk to the PC would probly require a shitload
of circuitry.  Unless you could bypass the whole thing, and let the PC's
parralell port simulate the cart's signals.  I wonder if a PC could generate
the signals fast enough to "emulate"? "fake"? a real cart.

Okay... now lemme get braced,  Tell how hard this is and why its impossible.

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From: Scott Cherven <scherven@skidmore.edu>
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Subject: Vectrex Mr. Boston Clean Sweep Picture!
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Take a look at the Ultra Rare Vectrex Mr. Boston Clean Sweep Cartridge
w/ Box & Overlay at:

http://www.skidmore.edu/~scherven/pers/mrboston.gif

Any comments can be directed to 

scherven@skidmore.edu

Thank You,
     Scott Cherven

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>Or maybey even come up with a cart that has a few K in it that allows to do
>some simple custom programming.  Hmm... Im getting a little ahead of
>myself... A cart that could talk to the PC would probly require a shitload
>of circuitry.  Unless you could bypass the whole thing, and let the PC's
>parralell port simulate the cart's signals.  I wonder if a PC could generate
>the signals fast enough to "emulate"? "fake"? a real cart.

Oh no, not this subject again !

You'll find a much easier way
if you check out my web page at http://www.crisp.net/home/pcjohn/index.html

Select "The Lab"







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I am holding an auction starting 12-14-96 till 12-30-96
at Midnight.


During my last auction, there was some MAJOR Problems with 
my mail server,  Things seem to be fine now.  So Please Mail me
it will (or Should) get threw this time :)


*** Please note that there is a $6 Minimum to order.

The rules to my auction are as follows.

1. I Reserve the Right to Cancel the auction at ANY time.
2. I Reserve the Right to Denie ANY particular sale or trade.
3. I ONLY take Money orders as payment, no checks, and no COD S!
4. Shipping is $3 for cart packages, and $6 for systems.
5. All participants will be notified at the end of the auction with there
    total bill.
6. No games will be sent out, untill payment is first recieved.
7. There is a $6 Min to order.
8. Please E-mail me your bids, and they will be posted every night
    to see how the bidding is coming along, in rec.games.video.marketplace.
9. Rules are subject to change,  Just protecting myself.
10. Bid increases are in $.50 advances.
11. Trades take higher priority over bids.
 
*** I Have Doubles Or More Of The Following Games. 
 There Condition Is Labeled Next To The Game.  

*** I WILL Trade the Atari Carts for NES carts or other system carts.
*** I Love to trade, mail me what ya got!

E-mail me at saad@acsu.buffalo.edu

2600 (All 2600 Carts are a Min $1) I Will trade 2 or 3 of your old loose games
For 1 of my new games.  

Chopper Commnad, Loose Cart 
Combat, Loose Cart 
Combat, Loose Cart 
Combat, Loose Cart 
Combat, Loose Cart 
Combat, Loose Cart 
Defender, Loose Cart 
Defender, Loose Cart 
Demons To Diamonds, Loose Cart 
Demons To Diamonds, Loose Cart 
E.T., Loose Cart 
E.T., Loose Cart 
Galaxian, Loose Cart 
Haunted House, Loose Cart 
Infiltrate (Apollo) Top Sticker Torn, Loose Cart 
Missile Command, Loose Cart 
Out Low, Loose Cart 
Pac Man, Loose Cart 
Phoenix, Loose Cart  
Sneak'n'Peak, Loose Cart 
Solaris (Shrink Wrapped)	
Solaris (Shrink Wrapped)
Space Invaders, Loose Cart 
Star Voyager, Loose Cart 
Tennis (Activision), Loose Cart 
War Loards, Loose Cart 
Yars' Revenge, Loose Cart 
Yars' Revenge, Loose Cart 

Pilot Style Atari 2600 Stick (New in Box, Works GREAT) Min $1


7800 (All 7800 Carts are a Min $1)

Choplifter! (With Box, Opened)
Choplifter! (With Box, Opened)
Food Fight (No Box, No manual) Loose Cart
Pole Position 2 (No Box, No Manual) Loose Cart


Vectrex Stuff

Berzerk, Loose Cart           Min $5
Hyper Chase, Loose Cart    Min $5
Scramble, Loose Cart         Min $5
Solar Quest, Loose Cart      Min $5
Spike, Loose Cart               Min $5
Spin Ball, Loose Cart (No Label)  Min $5
Star Trek, Loose Cart        Min $5

Will Trade For Other Vectrex carts.  EMail me your List
Will Also trade Vec carts for sega, Nintendo or other system carts.


GameBoy

Nuby Play and Carry GB Case (New in Box) Min $1
Nuby Play and Carry GB Case (New in Box) Min $1


Virtual Boy (I have 2 copies of tennis for sale/trade)

Mario Tennis (No Box, No Manual)
Mario Tennis (No Box, No Manual)
	
Or will trade this one for Water World, baseball, 3D Tetris, 
nesters bowling or Jack Bros.



Turbo Duo

Crater Maze (New, NEVER Opened)     $6

Or will trade for almost Any PCE or TG-16 HuCard, Mail me your list.



8Bit Nintendo (NES)

Tetris by Nintendo, No box or Manual. Min $8
Zelda 2, Loose Cart   Min  $6

*** Will trade the NES games on a 2 to 1 trade (2 of your bad games, for 
1 of my good games, Or will trade the NES games for gameboy, TG16, or others)


Sega Genesis

Final Fight CD (New, Never Opened)    Min $5
XBand Modem (New, Never Opened)    Min $5
XBand Modem (New, Never Opened)    Min $5

Or will trade for other Sega carts or CD's


N64

K.I. Gold (Box and Manual)      Min $45

Or Will trade for a boxed and manual Wave Race Only!



E-mail me at saad@acsu.buffalo.edu


*** I WILL Trade The Atari Carts On A 1 To 1, Or A 2 (Or 3) To 1 Ratio For NES carts.
*** I WILL Trade Anything From My Auction, Mail Me What Ya Got.
*** Think My Min Bids Are TOOOOOO High?  Make Me An Offer.
*** I WANT SNES,NES, PCE, Sega Genesis, Game Boy, Atari 2600,5200,7800, 
Intelevision and Vectrex games!  If ya wanna trade, let me know.

My Want list is (Meaning I'll trade anything for this stuff!)

Genesis (Crusaders Of Centy, Sonic & Knuckles,  Garfield, Aladdin, Space Harrier 32X)
NES (Super Mario 3 Japanese Famicom version, Mega Man 3,4,5,6)
GameBoy (Balloon Kid, Metroid 2, Kirby 2, and Ninja Taro)
TG16 (Military Madness, Neutopia  2, Space Harrier, Y's 3 cd, Cotton SCD)
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Subject: vectrex for sale with 7 carts and light pen
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vectrex,2nd controller,light pen and 8 carts.all boxed except light
pen.carts are :-armor attack,blitz,solar quest,space wars,scramble,
ripoff,soccer-football and art master for use with lightpen.all carts
boxed ( except art master) with instructions and overlays.

sensible offers welcomed over £200 (pounds sterling)

thank you robin howard

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I'm looking to buy a Vetrex system.

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From: saad@acsu.buffalo.edu (Joseph Y Saad)
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I am holding an auction starting 12-14-96 till 12-30-96
at Midnight.


During my last auction, there was some MAJOR Problems with 
my mail server,  Things seem to be fine now.  So Please Mail me
it will (or Should) get threw this time :)


*** Please note that there is a $6 Minimum to order.

The rules to my auction are as follows.

1. I Reserve the Right to Cancel the auction at ANY time.
2. I Reserve the Right to Denie ANY particular sale or trade.
3. I ONLY take Money orders as payment, no checks, and no COD S!
4. Shipping is $3 for cart packages, and $6 for systems.
5. All participants will be notified at the end of the auction with there
    total bill.
6. No games will be sent out, untill payment is first recieved.
7. There is a $6 Min to order.
8. Please E-mail me your bids, and they will be posted every night
    to see how the bidding is coming along, in rec.games.video.marketplace.
9. Rules are subject to change,  Just protecting myself.
10. Bid increases are in $.50 advances.
11. Trades take higher priority over bids.
 
*** I Have Doubles Or More Of The Following Games. 
 There Condition Is Labeled Next To The Game.  

*** I WILL Trade the Atari Carts for NES carts or other system carts.
*** I Love to trade, mail me what ya got!

E-mail me at saad@acsu.buffalo.edu

2600 (All 2600 Carts are a Min $1) I Will trade 2 or 3 of your old loose games
For 1 of my new games.  

Chopper Commnad, Loose Cart 
Combat, Loose Cart 
Combat, Loose Cart 
Combat, Loose Cart 
Combat, Loose Cart 
Combat, Loose Cart 
Defender, Loose Cart 
Defender, Loose Cart 
Demons To Diamonds, Loose Cart 
Demons To Diamonds, Loose Cart 
E.T., Loose Cart 
E.T., Loose Cart 
Galaxian, Loose Cart 
Haunted House, Loose Cart 
Infiltrate (Apollo) Top Sticker Torn, Loose Cart 
Missile Command, Loose Cart 
Out Low, Loose Cart 
Pac Man, Loose Cart 
Phoenix, Loose Cart  
Sneak'n'Peak, Loose Cart 
Solaris (Shrink Wrapped)	
Solaris (Shrink Wrapped)
Space Invaders, Loose Cart 
Star Voyager, Loose Cart 
Tennis (Activision), Loose Cart 
War Loards, Loose Cart 
Yars' Revenge, Loose Cart 
Yars' Revenge, Loose Cart 

Pilot Style Atari 2600 Stick (New in Box, Works GREAT) Min $1


7800 (All 7800 Carts are a Min $1)

Choplifter! (With Box, Opened)
Choplifter! (With Box, Opened)
Food Fight (No Box, No manual) Loose Cart
Pole Position 2 (No Box, No Manual) Loose Cart


Vectrex Stuff

Berzerk, Loose Cart           Min $5
Hyper Chase, Loose Cart    Min $5
Scramble, Loose Cart         Min $5
Solar Quest, Loose Cart      Min $5
Spike, Loose Cart               Min $5
Spin Ball, Loose Cart (No Label)  Min $5
Star Trek, Loose Cart        Min $5

Will Trade For Other Vectrex carts.  EMail me your List
Will Also trade Vec carts for sega, Nintendo or other system carts.


GameBoy

Nuby Play and Carry GB Case (New in Box) Min $1
Nuby Play and Carry GB Case (New in Box) Min $1


Virtual Boy (I have 2 copies of tennis for sale/trade)

Mario Tennis (No Box, No Manual)
Mario Tennis (No Box, No Manual)
	
Or will trade this one for Water World, baseball, 3D Tetris, 
nesters bowling or Jack Bros.



Turbo Duo

Crater Maze (New, NEVER Opened)     $6

Or will trade for almost Any PCE or TG-16 HuCard, Mail me your list.



8Bit Nintendo (NES)

Tetris by Nintendo, No box or Manual. Min $8
Zelda 2, Loose Cart   Min  $6

*** Will trade the NES games on a 2 to 1 trade (2 of your bad games, for 
1 of my good games, Or will trade the NES games for gameboy, TG16, or others)


Sega Genesis

Final Fight CD (New, Never Opened)    Min $5
XBand Modem (New, Never Opened)    Min $5
XBand Modem (New, Never Opened)    Min $5

Or will trade for other Sega carts or CD's


N64

K.I. Gold (Box and Manual)      Min $45

Or Will trade for a boxed and manual Wave Race Only!



E-mail me at saad@acsu.buffalo.edu


*** I WILL Trade The Atari Carts On A 1 To 1, Or A 2 (Or 3) To 1 Ratio For NES carts.
*** I WILL Trade Anything From My Auction, Mail Me What Ya Got.
*** Think My Min Bids Are TOOOOOO High?  Make Me An Offer.
*** I WANT SNES,NES, PCE, Sega Genesis, Game Boy, Atari 2600,5200,7800, 
Intelevision and Vectrex games!  If ya wanna trade, let me know.

My Want list is (Meaning I'll trade anything for this stuff!)

Genesis (Crusaders Of Centy, Sonic & Knuckles,  Garfield, Aladdin, Space Harrier 32X)
NES (Super Mario 3 Japanese Famicom version, Mega Man 3,4,5,6)
GameBoy (Balloon Kid, Metroid 2, Kirby 2, and Ninja Taro)
TG16 (Military Madness, Neutopia  2, Space Harrier, Y's 3 cd, Cotton SCD)
N64 (Pilot Wings 64, Wave Race US or Japanese)



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Subject: Interested in buying a working Vectrex & Carts
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Mail me w/ offers

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Vectrex System for Sale with
1 controller
 
Games included are(cartridges only):
Armor Attack
Cosmic Chasm(cosmic chasm pcb is in a star trek case)
Scramble
Spike
 
 
$125 shipped(usa)
 
 


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From: cmoore@cyberport.com (cm)
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Subject: Re: Vect-PC-Link-Cart
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In article <58skc4$h7b@news.syspac.com>, cshamis@mail.syspac.comû says...
>
Silly question for the techies out there.

Is it possible to create a cart that could link your vectrex to the PC's
serial or parrellell port.

Its just a hack, but man would it be cool to use the Vec's stroke display
from the PC.  :)  Running linux of course.  :)
>
Or maybey even come up with a cart that has a few K in it that allows to do
some simple custom programming.  Hmm... Im getting a little ahead of
myself... A cart that could talk to the PC would probly require a shitload
of circuitry.  Unless you could bypass the whole thing, and let the PC's
parralell port simulate the cart's signals.  I wonder if a PC could generate
>the signals fast enough to "emulate"? "fake"? a real cart.

Okay... now lemme get braced,  Tell how hard this is and why its impossible.

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There is a card that will download game images from the PC to
the vectrex, for game development,  look at PC johns www page.


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From: waynem1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au (Wayne Morellini)
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Subject: Vectrex out of patent?
Date: 16 Dec 1996 07:18:26 GMT
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Yes is this true?

Wayne.

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From: waynem1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au (Wayne Morellini)
Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex
Subject: Projection Vectrex Breakthrough, (Formerly Laser Vectrex).
Date: 16 Dec 1996 07:16:35 GMT
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Hi Guys.

Yes I got sick of everybody talking about the Laser Vectrex, nobody helping,
and people saying how expensive it would be.  So I went out and made a
projection one myself.

Firstly I was experimenting with my old Atari Lynx and had it running on the
ceiling (yes) about 16 times the size or so.  But the image is very weak,
though the Lynx uses enough power to light a room it is dipersed at a wide
angle.  The problem is that the visible image is only a narrow angle,
if you include the light from the resty of the angles it interferes with the
quality, so I could barely see my nephews Batman game's background.

Well I then got back home and tried this on the Vectrex, and hey presto,
magnificento. 10 foot by 6 foot Games on my ceiling.

What did I do well you know those book magnifying sheets, well I picked up a
couple of big ones from Big W.  I then applied them at the appropriate
distances above the the unit :), held up by rulers, dowling and yellow tac. 
The sheets need to be clean, because they don't give a good optical image. 
The bend in the middle can be cured by turnning the sheets every now and
again ;), or putting addition support in.  The slightly off optical
qualities don't matter as we are using lines to draw.

The only slight problems are that you have to turn the brightness right up,
which may permantly damage the phospor coating on the inside of the monitor
if the machine keeps drawing accross one position, so watch for this.  The
image is also reversed and turned upside down, something I have to look
into.

Well have fujn all up it might cost less than $10.

Wayne.


More installed.

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Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex
Subject: Re: Projection Vectrex Breakthrough, (Formerly Laser Vectrex).
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In article <592t0j$dpd@janus.cqu.edu.au>,
Wayne Morellini <waynem1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au> wrote:
>Hi Guys.
>
>Yes I got sick of everybody talking about the Laser Vectrex, nobody helping,
>and people saying how expensive it would be.  So I went out and made a
>projection one myself.
-snip-
>What did I do well you know those book magnifying sheets, well I picked up a
>couple of big ones from Big W.  I then applied them at the appropriate
>distances above the the unit :), held up by rulers, dowling and yellow tac. 
>The sheets need to be clean, because they don't give a good optical image. 
>The bend in the middle can be cured by turnning the sheets every now and
>again ;), or putting addition support in.  The slightly off optical
>qualities don't matter as we are using lines to draw.
-snip-
>Well have fujn all up it might cost less than $10.

You are a bloody genius.  I tried it now, with a little bookmark-sized
one and it was excellent.

The image could probably be reversed with a mirror before projection.

Congratulations, you've made history without blinding any small children.


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Subject: Re: Vect-PC-Link-Cart
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This subject comes up again and again and it's mainly a lack of intiative
and resources on the parts of those who frequent this newsgroup which has
prevented this from becoming a reality. 

I remember encouraging the RAMcart idea a long time ago, although I could
do nothing but do so verbally, since I'm not a hacker.  After a while I
gave up trying to get people to do more than blow hot air about the
project, and the Supercharger CD became my project.  What does that have
to do with a Vec RAMCART idea? 

Well, being that the Supercharger is in essense a ramcart (volatile) and
I/O interface for the Atari 2600, a cart which has already been heavily
mass produced and is already owned by many collectors (and is already of
intrinsic value due to the unique games available for it) making it into a
true dev system was wholly a software issue, which was solved when the
Supercharger audio format and memory management system was rediscovered
and relearned. 

Unfortunately, any RAMcart system for the Vec will require someone to
spend a good deal of time and money building them and then hope that
people out there will buy them before any fruits from these labors come. 
Or a general-purpose hack file will require each user to be a hacker as
well.  Odds are, end users will not get them, thus defeating one of the
purposes of such a device--easy electronic game distribution to the
remaining userbase that are "wired".  That being said, a RAMcart of 32K of
read/write SRAM, taking advantage of the full linear address space
provided by the Vec's cart port, let alone a banking scheme with more
memory available, and a parallel or serial interface would no doubt give
the Vec enough space to deliver games far deeper than anything we've yet
seen for it (I would think 32K goes quite a long way in a vector
environment which doesn't require the storage of bitmaps), and a far more
convenient dev and distribution solution than cannibalizing old carts and
burning EPROMs for them.


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Subject: Projection Vectrex
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Hmmm... why use magnifying glasses?  How about this as an
idea for a bigger screen?  Point your camcorder at the
Vectrex and plug the camcorder into your 50 inch big screen
t.v. or LCD front screen projector and play Vectrex like it
has never been played before!  What?  You don't have a big
screen t.v.?  Hey, I can't figure everything out for you!

Gordon
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Atari 5200, Atari 7800, Intellivision II, Vectrex, NES, SNES, SMS,
Genesis, TurboDuo, 3DO, Jaguar... with more to come!
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Actually, there is no need to use a mirror, just swap the wires going to
the deflection coils on the yoke of the CRT.  

Even though the CRT is fairly bright, I would still think that the room
would have to be pitch dark to see the screen projected to +6' in size.

Still, sometimes problems with old technology require old technology
solutions.

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Still not a LASER unit. But kinda funcky I guess!


Wayne Morellini wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys.
> 
> Yes I got sick of everybody talking about the Laser Vectrex, nobody helping,
> and people saying how expensive it would be.  So I went out and made a
> projection one myself.
> 
> Firstly I was experimenting with my old Atari Lynx and had it running on the
> ceiling (yes) about 16 times the size or so.  But the image is very weak,
> though the Lynx uses enough power to light a room it is dipersed at a wide
> angle.  The problem is that the visible image is only a narrow angle,
> if you include the light from the resty of the angles it interferes with the
> quality, so I could barely see my nephews Batman game's background.
> 
> Well I then got back home and tried this on the Vectrex, and hey presto,
> magnificento. 10 foot by 6 foot Games on my ceiling.
> 
> What did I do well you know those book magnifying sheets, well I picked up a
> couple of big ones from Big W.  I then applied them at the appropriate
> distances above the the unit :), held up by rulers, dowling and yellow tac.
> The sheets need to be clean, because they don't give a good optical image.
> The bend in the middle can be cured by turnning the sheets every now and
> again ;), or putting addition support in.  The slightly off optical
> qualities don't matter as we are using lines to draw.
> 
> The only slight problems are that you have to turn the brightness right up,
> which may permantly damage the phospor coating on the inside of the monitor
> if the machine keeps drawing accross one position, so watch for this.  The
> image is also reversed and turned upside down, something I have to look
> into.
> 
> Well have fujn all up it might cost less than $10.
> 
> Wayne.
> 
> More installed.
> 
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>Hmmm... why use magnifying glasses?  How about this as an
>idea for a bigger screen?  Point your camcorder at the
>Vectrex and plug the camcorder into your 50 inch big screen
>t.v. or LCD front screen projector and play Vectrex like it
>has never been played before!  What?  You don't have a big
>screen t.v.?  Hey, I can't figure everything out for you!

You haven't tried this wonderful idea, have you ?

Take it from a Vectrex pro, it won't work.









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DisKounters Video Game Catalog.

At this time, we request you let us know if you want to receive the entire
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I finally got (some of) them done. I've only done the first 3 lowest res.
pcx files. My computer only has 1 MB video RAM and 8 MB standard RAM, so
it's really a pain trying to do the higher res. ones. 

Anyway the zip file with the overlays and the VOL file is at:

http://home.aol.com/waltdg


Sorry about the delay...
Walt 

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From: waynem1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au (Wayne Morellini)
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osu-uma (osu-uma@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Actually, there is no need to use a mirror, just swap the wires going to
: the deflection coils on the yoke of the CRT.  

: Even though the CRT is fairly bright, I would still think that the room
: would have to be pitch dark to see the screen projected to +6' in size.

: Still, sometimes problems with old technology require old technology
: solutions.

Well yes the image is fairly dull at 6 foot, and would only tolerate the
light of the TV set from the next room.  But this is a proof of concept, now
we can go on.  I have been searching for the TV projection boxs that they
used to advertise in the Popular Science magazines, but have only found the
TV screen enlargers.

The projection box would be a complete set up solution,
but the TV enlarger screens are basically the same as the book marks.
Origionally when the TV enlarger lens was developed it was used in
the 1986? film Brazil, upon hereing of this odity I went and ordered one,
but removed it a couple of years ago.  I presently have a catalogue with the
item in it and am thinking of getting one.  The problem with the present one
is that it is too flexible (sags in the middle) and to small, misses the
extra light at the edges.  The quality of the image would also be less.  But
if you see one of these enlargers it should be a good solution.

Now future, single projection tubes connectted to the Vectrex like the
monitor is should be able to do the same job.  The problem is I am having
difficulty finding a supplier and I have a better idea.  Well we all know
those miniture B&W TV sets, well they might be capable of doing the Job.

Now I asked if the Vectrex was out of Patent because in some countries
patents only last 15 years.  This makes it possible to remake the circuit
with new Roms that have the same routine locations (thus some of my
questions of the past as to wherever the the games used the specified
subroutines or just jump into them willy nilly) and hook them up.  It would
be also possible to make a custom chip with most of the components on one
chip, hook it up to a suitable tube (simplisticly) and sell it ;).  Using a
single pixel LCD filter then you could get at least 256 colours, I have most
of these technologies down on my books allready.

Well what do you think?

Wayne.  
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pcjohn@crisp.net wrote:
> 
> >Hmmm... why use magnifying glasses?  How about this as an
> >idea for a bigger screen?  Point your camcorder at the
> >Vectrex and plug the camcorder into your 50 inch big screen
> >t.v. or LCD front screen projector and play Vectrex like it
> >has never been played before!  What?  You don't have a big
> >screen t.v.?  Hey, I can't figure everything out for you!
> 
> You haven't tried this wonderful idea, have you ?
> 
> Take it from a Vectrex pro, it won't work.

I admit that I have never tried it.  (Like your site by the
way!)  If I can remember, I will try it this weekend and
report the results.

Gordon
-- 
Gordon A. Glenn aka Boojiboy     --  gaglenn@ix.netcom.com
Likes:  Sci-Fi, Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5, X-Files, Stephen King
Video Game Systems Owned:  Fairchild Channel F, Atari VCS/2600,
Atari 5200, Atari 7800, Intellivision II, Vectrex, Colecovision,
NES, SNES, SMS, Genesis, TurboDuo, 3DO, Jaguar... with more to come!
Check out my web page devoted to Middle Aged Gamers at
http://www.netcom.com/~gaglenn/midgamer.html

In the real world I am a personal injury attorney in San Diego,
California.
Check out my law office web page at
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From: waynem1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au (Wayne Morellini)
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I had to continue on here because this servers news editor has a propensity
to die when editing without leaving a backup.

Well anyway, last night I tried to make joystick adaptors for my Vectrex
until I realised that I got the wrong parts list.  I was planning on hooking
up these infrared Sega Genisis controllers to them, does anybody know how
the Sega decodes the switches or have any
for sale ($65US is a bit much for me)?

Tonight I want to get onto :) hooking my multimedia speakers to it, 120
Watts Peak, with little bass distortion.

By the way another little tibit I picked up was that those rear projection
arcade machines use high brightness CRT projection TUBES, they are like
normal, monitors except for the brightness.  Pitty they are pixelised.

Another public revelation is that I thought up a few designs to solve the
laser writing speed problem, the most promising from memory are:

- a magnetically controlled lense that the laser is fired into, that is
moved so as to fire the laser in the desired direction.

- Coming after this I decided that to mount a laser ontop of a piezo
electrical crystal (or one of the other things) and fire it into the lense,
the slight angle being amplified by the lense :).  This was stired by some
sort of information (I dont rember) that suggested that it was possible to
mount a semiconductor laser this way.  You could mount a mirror on it and
fire the laser int that.  (string them together aswell).

Lastly the one I was going to go with:

A metalic coated fibroptic wire is fed from the laser to a feild.  Like the
CRT the light photons then become electromagnectically controllable.  You
either drag the fibre to the edge of an electromagnectic ring, or suspend
it.  Very cheap, and with the right fibre maybe a 100 hours use between
fibre changes.  A lense could enlarge the angle.

Now I figured out another way without lasers.

Well now after I have revealed this it shouldn't be patentable, and if
anybody tries to I won't be happy ;(.

I'll therefore say that this information is copyrighted Wayne Morellini,
1996 (in absense of the copyright symbol (not needed in some countries).

I hereby give permission for use of this information only on the proviso
that it be referenced/attributed to Wayne Morellini, Rockhampton, Australia,
1996.  So this allows you to use it hopefully without patenting the market.
(Well I haven't heard them suggested elsewhere).

May I also state that the above is just my personal opinion and gives no
gaurantee of correctness or functionality (as I am probably wrong about some
things).  Have fun.

Wayne.
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Have fun.

Wayne.

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Gordon Glenn (gaglenn@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Hmmm... why use magnifying glasses?  How about this as an
: idea for a bigger screen?  Point your camcorder at the
: Vectrex and plug the camcorder into your 50 inch big screen
: t.v. or LCD front screen projector and play Vectrex like it
: has never been played before!  What?  You don't have a big
: screen t.v.?  Hey, I can't figure everything out for you!

I have the camcorder, but I wasn't planning on using that end.

Well people have nocked this sort of idea before because the TV isn't as
bright and the mask is a bit grainy.  The other problems I have is that it
isn't portable and probably won't ussually cost less than 10 dollers.

Wayne.
 
: Gordon
: -- 
: Gordon A. Glenn aka Boojiboy     --  gaglenn@ix.netcom.com
: Likes:  Sci-Fi, Star Trek, Star Wars, Babylon 5, X-Files, Stephen King
: Video Game Systems Owned:  Fairchild Channel F, Atari VCS/2600,
: Atari 5200, Atari 7800, Intellivision II, Vectrex, NES, SNES, SMS,
: Genesis, TurboDuo, 3DO, Jaguar... with more to come!
: Check out my web page devoted to Middle Aged Gamers at
: http://www.netcom.com/~gaglenn/midgamer.html

: In the real world I am a personal injury attorney in San Diego,
: California.
: Check out my law office web page at
: http://www.netcom.com/~gaglenn/lawoffice.html

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From: Adam Bergstrom <adam.bergstrom@um.erisoft.se>
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I have searched the net for decent info on the cartridge
connector of the vectrex. I have the schematics scans, but
they are useless, as the scan is too low quality to see any
pin-numbers or names. I would like a good scan of the schematics,
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From: waltdg@aol.com (WaltDG)
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Subject: Patriots overlay for DVE1.20
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It seems my original post didn't make it through...

I have created a Patriots overlay and put it (and only it) on my web page.
The zip file that is downloadable there contains only the first 3 lower
res. PCX files and the VOL file. I don't know if I'll try to do the last
2, since my computer's memory limitations make it very difficult.

BTW, this overlay was designed specifically for DVE1.20 (and will work
with higher versions). The point is, I don't know how it would work as a
real overlay, but if anyone tries to make it as one let me know. I'd love
to have it as one I could actually use on my Vectrex.

http://home.aol.com/waltdg

Hope you like it.
Walt  

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From: aquarius@aracnet.com (Chris Stafford)
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Subject: ** VECTREX SYSTEM FOR SALE **
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Hi,

I have the following wunnerful Vectrex System For Sale:

*  Vectrex Console in clean, good working condition.. No damage..
*  Vectrex Controller in clean, smooth-playing condition.. No damage.. 
    (Missing 3 of the tiny, thin rubber feet on base only..)
*  Sorry, no overlay for the built-in game, "MineStorm", available..

** $175.00 which includes SHIPPING via USPS Priority (2 - 3 day service)
      ANYWHERE in the CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES.. **

** Payment in the form of Bank Money Order accepted for immediate shipment
      upon receipt, or Personal Checks are accepted with a 7 - 10 business
day wait for clearance
      before shipment **

** ALSO AVAILABLE **

- "Heads-Up" Soccer (cartridge only): $20.00
- "Berserk" (cartridge, box and overlay, no instructions): $35.00
- "Scramble" (cartridge only): $20.00
- "Spike" (cartridge only): $20.00

** Shipping= $2.00 per cartridge ANYWHERE in the CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES .. **


                                                                                                                      


                                                                                                                     
* Thanks,

                                                                                                                               
Chris..

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I am looking for the menu driven front end for DVE by Andrew Bond.  The
program file name is menu17a.zip.  If anyone has it and doesn't mind
sending it to me I would be real happy.  Thank you

William M. Hayden
Electronic Technician Communications/Computer
USA
whayden@vvm.com
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shit, i'd sell my vectrex for $125 PPD in the US, mind you regular post...

ss

Chris Stafford (aquarius@aracnet.com) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I have the following wunnerful Vectrex System For Sale:
> 
> *  Vectrex Console in clean, good working condition.. No damage..
> *  Vectrex Controller in clean, smooth-playing condition.. No damage.. 
>     (Missing 3 of the tiny, thin rubber feet on base only..)
> *  Sorry, no overlay for the built-in game, "MineStorm", available..
> 
> ** $175.00 which includes SHIPPING via USPS Priority (2 - 3 day service)
>       ANYWHERE in the CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES.. **
> 
> ** Payment in the form of Bank Money Order accepted for immediate shipment
>       upon receipt, or Personal Checks are accepted with a 7 - 10 business
> day wait for clearance
>       before shipment **
> 
> ** ALSO AVAILABLE **
> 
> - "Heads-Up" Soccer (cartridge only): $20.00
> - "Berserk" (cartridge, box and overlay, no instructions): $35.00
> - "Scramble" (cartridge only): $20.00
> - "Spike" (cartridge only): $20.00
> 
> ** Shipping= $2.00 per cartridge ANYWHERE in the CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES .. **
> 
> 
>                                                                                                                       
> 
> 
>                                                                                                                      
> * Thanks,
> 
>                                                                                                                                
> Chris..


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Adam Bergstrom (adam.bergstrom@um.erisoft.se) wrote:
: I have searched the net for decent info on the cartridge
: connector of the vectrex. I have the schematics scans, but
: they are useless, as the scan is too low quality to see any
: pin-numbers or names. I would like a good scan of the schematics,
: or just pin-names/numbers.

The even pin numbers are on the top while the odd are on the bottom.
one and two start on the right side (or near side as oriented when cart
is inside the base unit), and 35 and 36 are on the left (or far) side.
     36                   2
     +--------------------+
     +--------------------+
     35                   1

Pin #   Designation ("!" indicates logical NOT; i.e. logic low activates)
                 Vcc=+5VDC (MPU 7)   2  1   Halt! (MPU 40)
                 Vcc=+5VDC (MPU 7)   4  3   A7 (ROM 1)
                       A8 (ROM 23)   6  5   A6 (ROM 2)
                       A9 (ROM 22)   8  7   A5 (ROM 3)
                      A11 (ROM 21)  10  9   A4 (ROM 4)
         OE!/Vpp (ROM 20) (LS32 1)  12 11   A3 (ROM 3)
                      A10 (ROM 19)  14 13   A2 (ROM 6)
CE! (ROM 18) A15 (MPU 23) (LS32 2)  16 15   A1 (ROM 7)
                       D7 (ROM 17)  18 17   A0 (ROM 8)
                       D6 (ROM 16)  20 19   D0 (ROM 9)
                       D5 (ROM 15)  22 21   D1 (ROM 10)
                       D4 (ROM 14)  24 23   D2 (ROM 11)
                       D3 (ROM 13)  26 25   GND
                      GND (ROM 12)  28 27   GND
 R/W! (33 Ohms to MPU 32) (PIA 22)  30 29   A12 (MPU 20)
                 CART!(?) (LS32 3)  32 31   A13 (MPU 21)
                      NMI! (MPU 2)  34 33   A14 (MPU 22)
                      IRQ! (MPU 3)  36 35   PB6(?) (PIA 16)
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*CLASSIC VIDEOGAME COLLECTOR BUY/SELL/TRADE NON-COMPUTER (ARCADE/HOME)*
"If you quote me on this I'll have to deny it; I won't remember because
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Wayne Morellini wrote:
> 
> Yes is this true?
> 
> Wayne.
> 
> --
I don't think it is out of patent.  However the company that holds that
patent has gone under and the resulting parties have given permission to
do with it what you will.  I believe I read about this at 

http://www.nfinity.com/~swhalen/node99/index.html or
http://gator.naples.net/~saturn/vectrex/dve/index.html

Cannot be sure where.  Hope that is what you were asking.

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Ho ! Ho ! Hoooo !

Well, the year is near its end and we've seen some great
new games for the Vectrex, including Vector Vaders, Patriots,
All Good Things and Clay Cowgill's Moon Lander.

What's to come ?

As I posted earlier, I intend to continue writing Vectrex games,
but not for awhile. I hope to release my next major game sometime
in June. I have several ideas, and all I'll disclose for now, is that it
will be worth the wait. I have some basic code for a few of my ideas,
but my goal is to exceed Patriots, as well as keep to an original title.

As for my Vectrex, with all its run time, the old boy is on its last legs. 
I'm running my latest creation (more on this in a moment) and the screen
is struggling to maintain a steady picture, and the sound amplifier is so
weak that even with the volume all the way up, I can barely hear anything.

So the Vectrex will be undergoing major surgery soon, with a Zanen cap
kit and some new audio components. Between this and my recently
acquired GUNFIGHT machine, I'll be giving my soldering iron a workout.

As promised, I'm still releasing the 4K freebie game, but it's not going to
be an original as planned. Along with the GUNFIGHT machine, I recently
acquired an ASTEROIDS DELUXE machine. I've found a few things I don't
like  in Rockaroids and have updated the game to: 
ROCKAROIDS REMIX: ROCK FASTER !

It's essentially the same game, but a little more stress on the rocks.
Everything is smaller, so there's more room to manuever. And keeping with
the title, the rocks fly ! The medium and small rocks move twice as fast as
the original.

All Good Things will keep the original Rockaroids game. Rockaroids Remix
will be distributed as follows:

#1 - I will be bulk E-Mailing the binary image to whoever wants it on 
December 24th. Send me a request if you want it.

#2 - I have a limited amount of 4K Vectrex boards that I will be making
games with, probably around 20 or so. I am charging $5, which will include
shipping (more outside the US). This money is to cover the expense of the
EPROM, packing and shipping.

These boards will be shipping in January. I have a list of people who
expressed interest in the 4K game already, and I will be sending an
info-pack E-Mail in a couple of weeks.

The binary image will be available on my web page in January,

And more good news:

I am moving to a new web provider in January. In addition to
the regular Vectrex stuff I offer, you will be able to download
the original, documented (sort of) source code to Vector Vaders
and Patriots !

The binary file for my new Colecovision game/demo will
also be there !

The new address will be posted when it's ready !

That's all for now, Merry Christmas to those of you who 
celebrate it, and Happy New Year to everyone !

John Dondzila
pcjohn@crisp.net
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From: Free Money <money@money.com>
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Subject: RAPID CASH
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This is the fairest, most honest way I have seen to share in the wealth 
of the world.!

Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life. If you want 
to know how to make thousands of dollars quickly, legally, and with NO 
CATCH, then keep reading.

The Internet has grown tremendously. It doubles in size every 4 months. 
Think about it. You see those 'Make Money Fast' posts more and more.  
That's ... because it WORKS !  So I thought, all those new users might  
make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago.  Besides, 
what's $5.00, I spend more than that in the morning on my way to work on 
coffee and cigs for the day. So I sent in my money and posted. Everyone 
was calling it a scam, but there are SO many new users from AOL, Netcom, 
etc. they will join in and make it work for you.

Well, two weeks later, I began receiving bucks in the mail!  I couldn't 
believe it! Not just a little, I mean big bucks!  At first only a few 
hundred dollars, then a week later, a couple of thousand, then BOOM. By 
the end of the fourth week, I had received nearly $47,000.00. It came 
from all over the world. And every bit of it perfectly legal and on the 
up and up. I've been able to pay off all my bills and still had enough 
left over for a nice vacation for me and my family.

Not only does it work for me, it works for other folks as well. Markus 
Valppu says he made $57,883 in four weeks. Dave Manning claims he made 
$53,664 in the same amount of time. Dan Shepstone says it was only  
$17,000 for him. Do I know these folks? No, but when I read how they say 
they did it, it made sense to me. Enough sense that I'm taking a similar 
chance with $5 of my own bucks. Not a big chance, I admit--but one with 
incredible potential, because $5 is all anyone ever invests in this 
system. Period. That's all Markus, Dave, or Dan invested, yet their $5 
netted them tens of thousands of dollars each, in a safe, legal, 
completely legitimate way. Here's how it works in 3 easy steps:

STEP 1.
Invest your $5 by writing your name and address on five separate pieces 
of paper along with the words: "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST." (In 
this way, you're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're paying for 
a legitimate service.) Fold a $1 bill inside each paper, and mail them 
by standard U. S. Mail to the following five addresses:
 
1.   Michael Barratt - 27 Park Ave. - Poughkeepsie, NY 12603

2.   Brian Truter - 101 N. Park Avenue - Springfield, IL 62702

3.   J. Campbell - 1040 C Winners Circle - Bowling Green, KY 42104

4.   Joost Walter - P.O. Box 259 - 2870-AG Schoonhoven The Netherlands

5.   S. Thomas - P.O. Box 4945 - Tampa, FL 33677-4945


STEP 2.
Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other names up. This 
way, #5 becomes #4 and so on. Put your name in as the fifth one on the 
list.

STEP 3.
Post the article to at least 250 newsgroups. There are at least 19000 
newsgroups at any given moment in time. Try posting to as many 
newsgroups as you can. Remember the more groups you post to, the more 
people will see your article and send you cash!

STEP 4.
You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing returns 
within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the Internet is new and huge. There is no 
way you can lose.


Now here is how and why this system works:
 
Out of every block of 250 posts I made, I got back 5 responses. Yes, 
that's right, only 5. You make $5.00 in cash, not checks or money 
orders, but real cash with your name at #5. 

Each additional person who sent you $1.00 now also makes 250 additional 
postings with your name at #4, 1000 postings. On average then, 50 people 
will send you $1.00 with your name at #4,....$50.00 in your pocket!
 
Now these 50 new people will make 250 postings each with your name at #3 
or 10,000 postings. Average return, 500 people= $500.

They make 250 postings each with your name at #2= 100,000 postings=5000 
returns at $1.00 each=$5,000.00 in cash!
 
Finally, 5,000 people make 250 postings each with your name at #1 and 
you get a return of $60,000 before your name drops off the list. And 
that's only if everyone down the line makes only 250 postings each! Your 
total income for this one cycle is $55,000.
 
>From time to time when you see your name is no longer on the list, you 
take the latest posting you can find and start all over again.

The end result depends on you. You must follow through and repost this 
article everywhere you can think of. The more  postings you  make, the 
more cash ends up in your mailbox. It's too easy and too cheap to pass 
up!!!

So that's it. Pretty simple sounding stuff, huh? But believe me, it 
works. There are millions of people surfing the net every day, all day, 
all over the world. And 100,000 new people get on the net every day. You 
know that, you've seen the stories in the paper. So, my friend, read and 
follow the simple instructions and play fair. That's the key, and that's 
all there is to it. Print this out right now so you can refer back to 
this article easily. Try to keep an eye on all the postings you made to 
make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should 
be.

If you're really not sure or still think this can't be for real, then 
don't do it. But please print this article and pass it along to someone 
you know who really needs the bucks, and see what happens.

REMEMBER....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE 
BASIC IDEA TO MAKE THE BUCKS! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND 
YOU WILL WIN AND MAKE SOME REAL INSTANT FREE CASH!

*** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages 
with your name in the list and not sending the bucks to the people 
already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and 
only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 
bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over 
$10,000!



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Subject: Re: AUCTION Update Vec,2600,7800,N64 KI,tg16,nes stuff
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When You talk about Vectrex the old black and white comes with asteroids built in game 
If so I got a unit and might be looking for some carts--

Bill Gardner 
AKA >-REDBEARD-< 



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I hate having to do this, but...

John Tranter, (jtranter@lark.cc.ukans.edu) bought several items in my
first auction, last month.

I have yet to receive any kind of payment from him, despite a couple
emails claiming he was just about to send. It has now been over a
month since he said he was sending his money order.

 The big bummer here is that he had winning bids on more items than
any other person, $51.00 of items including several game systems.

Over the past two weeks I have emailed him repeatedly and have
received no response. I assume this indicates he isn't sending money.

I subsequently must advise auctioneers to not accept bids from him.



-Bill Stanton


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From: waynem1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au (Wayne Morellini)
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Subject: Re: Vectrex out of patent?
Date: 23 Dec 1996 08:02:47 GMT
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What I was implying is if this were the case another company could copy the
design and make a Vectrex compatable system, though I have no interest in
doing it.

Wayne.

William M. Hayden (whayden@vvm.com) wrote:
: Wayne Morellini wrote:
: > 
: > Yes is this true?
: > 
: > Wayne.
: > 
: > --
: I don't think it is out of patent.  However the company that holds that
: patent has gone under and the resulting parties have given permission to
: do with it what you will.  I believe I read about this at 

: http://www.nfinity.com/~swhalen/node99/index.html or
: http://gator.naples.net/~saturn/vectrex/dve/index.html

: Cannot be sure where.  Hope that is what you were asking.

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Subject: Bill's Second Systems Auction: Update#1-NEC,NES,ATARI,ODY,VEC,TG16,SEGA,etc.
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         **BILL'S SECOND AUCTION!!!**
             12/21/96 - 12/27/96
-----------------------------------------------
(2600-5200-7800-Vectrex-INTV-NES-Magnavox-C=64-
Turbo Duo-Odyssey-Fairchild-GameBoy-Saturn-3DO)

---See Terms & Agreements at end of document---
-----------------------------------------------
             NEWS ITEM BULLETINS

12/21: I made my first mistake! I included the
Fairchild carts in with the system AND an 
assortment (C7-C12). I've deleted the carts
from the system. Any bids on that system thus
far may be withdrawn.

12/21: Added a bunch of Atari and Commodore 
stuff to (S)ystems and (M)isc. categories. Plus
some other odd stuff... ;)

-----------------------------------------------
CONTENTS:

SECTION I - Systems
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous

************************************************
SECTION I - Systems
************************************************
S1). Atari 2600 Bundle 1  -$8-John M
      (4 switch, ultra-clean, works/tested,
       includes Combat & Star Raiders carts w/
       Star Raiders overlay, multi-keypad & 2
       working joysticks)

S2). Odyssey II  -$5min
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers, no power
       supply - uses any Sega p/s)

S3). Vectrex  -$35-TomHeroes
      (works/tested, w/ 1 controller, no carts)

S4). Fairchild Channel F System II -$10-Macra
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers NO CARTS)

S5). NEC Turbo Duo -$25-sahn
      (works/tested, needs video cables, no CD's)

S6). Atari 5200 Boxed System -$20-Macra
      (works/tested, complete w/ all docs, 100%
       working controllers, switchbox, etc. & 
       Super Breakout in SEALED box)

S7). Atari 7800 Boxed System Bundle -$11-John M
      (tested, complete w/ Dig Dug, Pole 
       Position & Galaga, carts only)

S8). Atari 2600 base unit -$5min 
      (tested, no power supply)

S9). Intellivision -$5-jonkru
      (tested)

S10). Intellivision -$10min
      (tested, w/ Intellivoice module)

S11). Nintendo NES -$5-rflagg
      (2 controllers, Zapper, RF, no p/supply)

S12). Commodore 64 -$5-mhollis
      (tested, w/ power supply)

S13). Nintendo NES -$6-John M
      (tested, 2 controllers, RF, p/supply & gun)

S14). Sega Saturn -$60-helmet
      (tested, modified for US/Jap swap, removed
       CD cover door, 2 controllers)

S15). 3DO Testing Station -$85-Rikard 
      (tested, dev system,  w/ testing joypad,
       has toggle switch for test purposes)

S16). Atari 400 -$5min
      (tested, no power supply)

S17). Atari 1200XL -$5min
      (tested, no power supply)

S18). Atari 130XE -$3min
      (broken keyboard (bad trace on keyboard 
       circuit), no power supply)


************************************************
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************
-->BID ON EACH CART INDIVIDUALLY!

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 1 
(these carts are w/ box and instructions)
C1). Cart #3 (Blackjack)
C2). Cart #6 (Addition, Subtraction)
C3). Cart #7 (Multiplication, Division)
C4). Cart #9 (Drag Strip)
C5). Cart #12 (Baseball)
C6). Cart #15 (Memory Match 1 & 2) $2-Rikard 

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 2
(these carts are WITHOUT boxes or instructions)
C7). Cart #1 (Tic-Tac-Toe, Shooting Gallery, 
              Doodle, Quadra-Doodle)
C8). Cart #1 (same as above but different label,
              larger '#1' w/ picture icons)
C9). Cart #2 (Desert Fox, Shooting Gallery)
C10). Cart #3 (Video Blackjack)
C11). Cart #4 (Spitfire)
C12). Cart #12 (Baseball)

*** Atari 2600
C13). Donkey Kong (Coleco)  
C14). Frogger (Parker Brothers)
C20). Donkey Kong (Coleco)
C50). Outlaw (boxed)
C51). Homerun (boxed)

*** Intellivision
C15). Space Battle (Mattel)
C16). Skiing (Mattel, in box w/manual)
C17). Poker & Blackjack (Mattel, in box)
C40). Bomb Squad (uses Intellivoice)
C41). Space Battle
C42). Tennis
C43). Astrosmash
C44). Black Jack
C45). NBA Basketball
C46). Horse Racing
C47). Q*Bert
C48). NFL Football
C49). Burgertime

*** Atari 8-bit Computers
C18). Centipede (Atari)
C19). Touch Typing (Atari, cassette)

*** Odyssey II
C20). Pick Axe Pete
C21). Cosmic Conflict
C22). Alien Invaders Plus
C23). Electronic Table Soccer
C24). Showdown in 2100 AD
C25). Baseball!
C26). War of Nerves
C27). Monkeyshines!
C28). Quest for the Rings (Gold Label)
C29). Invaders From Hyperspace
C30). Computer Golf
C31). K.C. Munchkin
C32). Thunderball
C33). Football
C34). Blockout/Breakdown
C35). Bowling/Basketball
C36). Sub Chase/Armored Encounter
C37). Out of This World/Helicopter Rescue
C38). Speedway/Spin-out/Crypto Logic

************************************************
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************

HH1). Soccer 
      (Mattel, LED, tested, power switch is a 
       little touchy, but game works fine)

HH2). Jurassic Park 
      (Tiger, LCD)

HH3). Safebuster $2-Rikard
      (Nintendo G&W, LCD 2-screen)

HH4). Soccer 
      (Mattel, LED, tested but no battery cover)

HH5). Cosmic Clash 
      (Tomy, lights)

HH6). Fire Engine 
      (Tandy, LCD)

HH7). Simon
      (MB, lights, more of a tabletop really)

HH8). Tennis $2-Rikard
      (Tomytronics, VFD)

HH9). Highway 
      (Tandy, LCD)

************************************************
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous
************************************************

M1). Super Wildcard -$40-Dave Holgate
     (SNES cart copier, 24megabit, parallel PC
      port built-in)

M2). Vectrex controller -$15-TomHeroes
     (Works fine)

M3). 3DO control pad -$5min
     (Tested)

M4). Atari 1010 Cassette -$5min
     
M5). Atari 1027 Printer -$5min

M6). Atari 1030 -$5min
     (300bps modem)

M7a). Atari Joysticks Set #1 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M7b). Atari Joysticks Set #2 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M7c). Atari Joysticks Set #3 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3min
      (1 pair, tested)

M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3min
      (1 pair, tested)

M9). 12" diagonal Magnavox -$10min
      (monochrome monitor)
    
M10). PS/2 Model 25 -$10min
      (IBM's Mac imitation, tested)

M11). Commodore 1541 -$10min
      (Disk Drive with power cord, tested)

M12). Commodore 1571 -$5min
      (Disk Drive with power cord, untested)

M13). Commodore 1520 -$5min
      (color plotter, untested)
************************************************
TERMS AND AGREEMENTS FOR ALL BIDDERS
************************************************

1). ALL BIDS ARE FINAL - If you make a bid, it 
is final. Do not bid on any item you don't 
intend to buy! 

2). PAYMENT FOR WINNING BIDS - Will be in $US
MONEY ORDERS or CASHIERS CHECK only. No checks
and I don't advise you send cash in the mail. In
the event of a winning bid, you send me the MO
and your address and I will send you the
item(s). Make MO/CC's out to:  Bill Stanton
                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~
3). TRADES - If you have something you want to
offer instead of cash, try me. Just don't refuse
to pay in cash if I refuse your trade offer. Any
item in the auction is subject to private trade,
but I will notify any bidders on that item in
the event someone offers me a lucrative trade.

4). SHIPPING COSTS - I make no guarantee that my
estimate of shipping costs are totally accurate.
I simply make an estimate.

5). BIDDING CRITERIA - Please follow the min.
bid increments as follows:

  $0-9   = $1
  $10-19 = $2
  $20-up = $5 

6). WINNING BIDS - Do send in your payment
within 5 days of my emailing you the final 
amount (shipping plus items). I am *still* 
waiting for some people to pay me from my last
auction (which ended in November)!

7). REMOVAL - Since some of these items aren't
mine, we reserve the right to remove any items
from the auction at any time.

8). AUCTION DURATION - We're going to run this
auction from 12/21/96 until 12/27/96 when it
will enter the going phase. This phase will go
ONCE, TWICE, GONE. Daily. Hopefully, it won't
drag out too long. The auction will formally 
conclude when all items either have winning bids 
or have been removed.

************************************************

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Subject: Bill's Second Systems Auction:Update#2-NEC,NES,ATARI,ODY,VEC,TG16,SEGA,etc.
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         **BILL'S SECOND AUCTION!!!**
             12/21/96 - 12/27/96
-----------------------------------------------
(2600-5200-7800-Vectrex-INTV-NES-Magnavox-C=64-
Turbo Duo-Odyssey-Fairchild-GameBoy-Saturn-3DO)

---See Terms & Agreements at end of document---
-----------------------------------------------
             NEWS ITEM BULLETINS

12/21: I made my first mistake! I included the
Fairchild carts in with the system AND an 
assortment (C7-C12). I've deleted the carts
from the system. Any bids on that system thus
far may be withdrawn.

12/21: Added a bunch of Atari and Commodore 
stuff to (S)ystems and (M)isc. categories. Plus
some other odd stuff... ;)

12/22: Notice - Channel F cart assortments are
not individual items... Please enter bids on 
the carts individually! I only grouped them to
differentiate between the boxed and unboxed 
carts.

12/22: REMINDER - Check the min. bid increments
at the bottom of the auction! People have been
bidding $1 increments on items over $10 and I
won't be accepting them after this update. Thx!

-----------------------------------------------
CONTENTS:

SECTION I - Systems
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous

************************************************
SECTION I - Systems
************************************************
S1). Atari 2600 Bundle 1  -$8-John M
      (4 switch, ultra-clean, works/tested,
       includes Combat & Star Raiders carts w/
       Star Raiders overlay, multi-keypad & 2
       working joysticks)

S2). Odyssey II  -$5-Jon
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers, no power
       supply - uses any Sega p/s)

S3). Vectrex  -$40-Meatyard
      (works/tested, w/ 1 controller, no carts)

S4). Fairchild Channel F System II -$15-Ken
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers NO CARTS)

S5). NEC Turbo Duo -$50-lordjeff
      (works/tested, needs video cables, no CD's)

S6). Atari 5200 Boxed System -$20-Macra
      (works/tested, complete w/ all docs, 100%
       working controllers, switchbox, etc. & 
       Super Breakout in SEALED box)

S7). Atari 7800 Boxed System Bundle -$11-John M
      (tested, complete w/ Dig Dug, Pole 
       Position & Galaga, carts only)

S8). Atari 2600 base unit -$5min 
      (tested, no power supply)

S9). Intellivision -$6-DisKountrs
      (tested)

S10). Intellivision -$10-Ken
      (tested, w/ Intellivoice module)

S11). Nintendo NES -$5-rflagg
      (2 controllers, Zapper, RF, no p/supply)

S12). Commodore 64 -$6-DisKountrs
      (tested, w/ power supply)

S13). Nintendo NES -$15-Xtrupula
      (tested, 2 controllers, RF, p/supply & gun)

S14). Sega Saturn -$60-helmet
      (tested, modified for US/Jap swap, removed
       CD cover door, 2 controllers)

S15). 3DO Testing Station -$85-Rikard 
      (tested, dev system,  w/ testing joypad,
       has toggle switch for test purposes)

S16). Atari 400 -$5min
      (tested, no power supply)

S17). Atari 1200XL -$5-Rikard 
      (tested, no power supply)

S18). Atari 130XE -$3min
      (broken keyboard (bad trace on keyboard 
       circuit), no power supply)


************************************************
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************
-->BID ON EACH CART INDIVIDUALLY!<--

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 1 
(these carts are w/ box and instructions)
C1). Cart #3 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Blackjack) 
C2). Cart #6 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Addition, Subtraction)
C3). Cart #7 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Multip, Div.)
C4). Cart #9 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Drag Strip) 
C5). Cart #12 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Baseball)
C6). Cart #15 $3-DisKountrs
     (Memory Match 1 & 2)

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 2
(these carts are WITHOUT boxes or instructions)
C7). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs
     (Tic-Tac-Toe, Shooting Gallery, Doodle,
      Quadra-Doodle)
C8). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs
     (same as above but different label,
      larger '#1' w/ picture icons)
C9). Cart #2  -$1-DisKountrs
     (Desert Fox, Shooting Gallery)
C10). Cart #3  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Video Blackjack)
C11). Cart #4  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Spitfire)
C12). Cart #12  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Baseball)

*** Atari 2600
C13). Donkey Kong (Coleco)  
C14). Frogger (Parker Brothers)
C52). Donkey Kong (Coleco)
C50). Outlaw (boxed)
C51). Homerun (boxed)

*** Intellivision
C15). Space Battle (Mattel)
C16). Skiing (Mattel, in box w/manual)
C17). Poker & Blackjack (Mattel, in box)
C40). Bomb Squad (uses Intellivoice) -$1-Jon
C41). Space Battle
C42). Tennis
C43). Astrosmash
C44). Black Jack
C45). NBA Basketball
C46). Horse Racing
C47). Q*Bert -$1-Jon
C48). NFL Football
C49). Burgertime

*** Atari 8-bit Computers
C18). Centipede (Atari)  -$1-DisKountrs
C19). Touch Typing -$1-DisKountrs
      (Atari, cassette) 

*** Odyssey II
C20). Pick Axe Pete -$1-Jon
C21). Cosmic Conflict
C22). Alien Invaders Plus
C23). Electronic Table Soccer
C24). Showdown in 2100 AD -$1-Jon
C25). Baseball!
C26). War of Nerves -$1-Jon
C27). Monkeyshines! -$1-Jon
C28). Quest for the Rings (Gold Label) -$1-Jon
C29). Invaders From Hyperspace
C30). Computer Golf
C31). K.C. Munchkin
C32). Thunderball
C33). Football
C34). Blockout/Breakdown
C35). Bowling/Basketball
C36). Sub Chase/Armored Encounter
C37). Out of This World/Helicopter Rescue-$1-Jon
C38). Speedway/Spin-out/Crypto Logic

************************************************
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************

HH1). Soccer -$3-Meatyard
      (Mattel, LED, tested, power switch is a 
       little touchy, but game works fine)

HH2). Jurassic Park 
      (Tiger, LCD)

HH3). Safebuster $2-Rikard
      (Nintendo G&W, LCD 2-screen)

HH4). Soccer 
      (Mattel, LED, tested but no battery cover)

HH5). Cosmic Clash 
      (Tomy, VFD)

HH6). Fire Engine 
      (Tandy, LCD)

HH7). Simon
      (MB, lights, more of a tabletop really)

HH8). Tennis $2-Rikard
      (Tomytronics, VFD)

HH9). Highway 
      (Tandy, LCD)

HH10). Galaxian
       (Coleco, VFD, BROKEN - circuit board
        cracked, good for parts or if you can
        work miracles with solder!)

************************************************
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous
************************************************

M1). Super Wildcard -$40-Dave Holgate
     (SNES cart copier, 24megabit, parallel PC
      port built-in)

M2). Vectrex controller -$16-DisKountrs
     (Works fine)

M3). 3DO control pad -$6-DisKountrs
     (Tested)

M4). Atari 1010 Cassette -$5min
     
M5). Atari 1027 Printer -$5min

M6). Atari 1030 -$5min
     (300bps modem)

M7a). Atari Joysticks Set #1 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M7b). Atari Joysticks Set #2 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M7c). Atari Joysticks Set #3 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3min
      (1 pair, tested)

M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3min
      (1 pair, tested)

M9). 12" diagonal Magnavox -$10min
      (monochrome monitor)
    
M10). PS/2 Model 25 -$10min
      (IBM's Mac imitation, tested)

M11). Commodore 1541 -$10-Mike Hollis
      (Disk Drive with power cord, tested)

M12). Commodore 1571 -$5-Mike Hollis
      (Disk Drive with power cord, untested)

M13). Commodore 1520 -$5min
      (color plotter, untested)
************************************************
TERMS AND AGREEMENTS FOR ALL BIDDERS
************************************************

1). ALL BIDS ARE FINAL - If you make a bid, it 
is final. Do not bid on any item you don't 
intend to buy! 

2). PAYMENT FOR WINNING BIDS - Will be in $US
MONEY ORDERS or CASHIERS CHECK only. No checks
and I don't advise you send cash in the mail. In
the event of a winning bid, you send me the MO
and your address and I will send you the
item(s). Make MO/CC's out to:  Bill Stanton
                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~
3). TRADES - If you have something you want to
offer instead of cash, try me. Just don't refuse
to pay in cash if I refuse your trade offer. Any
item in the auction is subject to private trade,
but I will notify any bidders on that item in
the event someone offers me a lucrative trade.

4). SHIPPING COSTS - I make no guarantee that my
estimate of shipping costs are totally accurate.
I simply make an estimate.

5). BIDDING CRITERIA - Please follow the min.
bid increments as follows:

  $0-9   = $1
  $10-19 = $2
  $20-up = $5 

6). WINNING BIDS - Do send in your payment
within 5 days of my emailing you the final 
amount (shipping plus items). I am *still* 
waiting for some people to pay me from my last
auction (which ended in November)!

7). REMOVAL - Since some of these items aren't
mine, we reserve the right to remove any items
from the auction at any time.

8). AUCTION DURATION - We're going to run this
auction from 12/21/96 until 12/27/96 when it
will enter the going phase. This phase will go
ONCE, TWICE, GONE. Daily. Hopefully, it won't
drag out too long. The auction will formally 
conclude when all items either have winning bids 
or have been removed.

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Subject: Bill's Second Systems Auction:Update#3-NEC,NES,ATARI,ODY,VEC,TG16,SEGA,etc.
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:43:25 GMT
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         **BILL'S SECOND AUCTION!!!**
             12/21/96 - 12/27/96
-----------------------------------------------
(2600-5200-7800-Vectrex-INTV-NES-Magnavox-C=64-
Turbo Duo-Odyssey-Fairchild-GameBoy-Saturn-3DO)

---See Terms & Agreements at end of document---
-----------------------------------------------
             NEWS ITEM BULLETINS

12/21: I made my first mistake! I included the
Fairchild carts in with the system AND an 
assortment (C7-C12). I've deleted the carts
from the system. Any bids on that system thus
far may be withdrawn.

12/21: Added a bunch of Atari and Commodore 
stuff to (S)ystems and (M)isc. categories. Plus
some other odd stuff... ;)

12/22: Notice - Channel F cart assortments are
not individual items... Please enter bids on 
the carts individually! I only grouped them to
differentiate between the boxed and unboxed 
carts.

12/22: REMINDER - Check the min. bid increments
at the bottom of the auction! People have been
bidding $1 increments on items over $10 and I
won't be accepting them after this update. Thx!

12/23: Added a Galaxian VFD to (H)andhelds, and
two SNES developer's EPROM cards.

12/24: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVE! Added some notes to
various items like the Super Wildcard.

-----------------------------------------------
CONTENTS:

SECTION I - Systems
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous

************************************************
SECTION I - Systems
************************************************
S1). Atari 2600 Bundle 1  -$8-John M
      (4 switch, ultra-clean, works/tested,
       includes Combat & Star Raiders carts w/
       Star Raiders overlay, multi-keypad & 2
       working joysticks)

S2). Odyssey II  -$6-DisKountrs
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers, no power
       supply - uses any Sega p/s)

S3). Vectrex  -$45-TomHeroes
      (works/tested, w/ 1 controller, no carts)

S4). Fairchild Channel F System II -$17-Rikard
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers NO CARTS)

S5). NEC Turbo Duo -$55-DisKountrs
      (works/tested, needs video cables, no CD's)

S6). Atari 5200 Boxed System -$20-Macra
      (works/tested, complete w/ all docs, 100%
       working controllers, switchbox, etc. & 
       Super Breakout in SEALED box)

S7). Atari 7800 Boxed System Bundle -$15-Fxites
      (tested, complete w/ Dig Dug, Pole 
       Position & Galaga, carts only)

S8). Atari 2600 base unit -$5min 
      (tested, no power supply)

S9). Intellivision -$6-DisKountrs
      (tested)

S10). Intellivision -$15-Gary
      (tested, w/ Intellivoice module)

S11). Nintendo NES -$5-rflagg
      (2 controllers, Zapper, RF, no p/supply)

S12). Commodore 64 -$10-Mike
      (tested, w/ power supply)

S13). Nintendo NES -$15-Xtrupula
      (tested, 2 controllers, RF, p/supply & gun)

S14). Sega Saturn -$65-Grey
      (tested, modified for US/Jap swap, removed
       CD cover door, 2 controllers)

S15). 3DO Testing Station -$85-Rikard 
      (tested, dev system,  w/ testing joypad,
       has toggle switch for test purposes)

S16). Atari 400 -$5-Fxites
      (tested, no power supply)

S17). Atari 1200XL -$5-Rikard 
      (tested, no power supply)

S18). Atari 130XE -$3-Fxites
      (broken keyboard (bad trace on keyboard 
       circuit), no power supply)


************************************************
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************
-->BID ON EACH CART INDIVIDUALLY!<--

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 1 
(these carts are w/ box and instructions)
C1). Cart #3 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Blackjack) 
C2). Cart #6 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Addition, Subtraction)
C3). Cart #7 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Multip, Div.)
C4). Cart #9 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Drag Strip) 
C5). Cart #12 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Baseball)
C6). Cart #15 $4-Rikard
     (Memory Match 1 & 2)

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 2
(these carts are WITHOUT boxes or instructions)
C7). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs
     (Tic-Tac-Toe, Shooting Gallery, Doodle,
      Quadra-Doodle)
C8). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs
     (same as above but different label,
      larger '#1' w/ picture icons)
C9). Cart #2  -$1-DisKountrs
     (Desert Fox, Shooting Gallery)
C10). Cart #3  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Video Blackjack)
C11). Cart #4  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Spitfire)
C12). Cart #12  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Baseball)

*** Atari 2600
C13). Donkey Kong (Coleco)  
C14). Frogger (Parker Brothers)
C52). Donkey Kong (Coleco)
C50). Outlaw (boxed)
C51). Homerun (boxed)

*** Intellivision
C15). Space Battle (Mattel)
C16). Skiing (Mattel, in box w/manual)
C17). Poker & Blackjack (Mattel, in box)
C40). Bomb Squad (uses Intellivoice) -$1-Jon
C41). Space Battle
C42). Tennis
C43). Astrosmash
C44). Black Jack
C45). NBA Basketball
C46). Horse Racing
C47). Q*Bert -$1-Jon
C48). NFL Football
C49). Burgertime

*** Atari 8-bit Computers
C18). Centipede (Atari)  -$1-DisKountrs
C19). Touch Typing -$1-DisKountrs
      (Atari, cassette) 

*** Odyssey II
C20). Pick Axe Pete -$1-Jon
C21). Cosmic Conflict
C22). Alien Invaders Plus
C23). Electronic Table Soccer
C24). Showdown in 2100 AD -$1-Jon
C25). Baseball!
C26). War of Nerves -$1-Jon
C27). Monkeyshines! -$1-Jon
C28). Quest for the Rings (Gold Label) -$1-Jon
C29). Invaders From Hyperspace
C30). Computer Golf
C31). K.C. Munchkin
C32). Thunderball
C33). Football
C34). Blockout/Breakdown
C35). Bowling/Basketball
C36). Sub Chase/Armored Encounter
C37). Out of This World/Helicopter Rescue-$1-Jon
C38). Speedway/Spin-out/Crypto Logic

************************************************
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************

HH1). Soccer -$3-Meatyard
      (Mattel, LED, tested, power switch is a 
       little touchy, but game works fine)

HH2). Jurassic Park 
      (Tiger, LCD)

HH3). Safebuster $3-osu-uma
      (Nintendo G&W, LCD 2-screen)

HH4). Soccer 
      (Mattel, LED, tested but no battery cover)

HH5). Cosmic Clash 
      (Tomy, VFD)

HH6). Fire Engine 
      (Tandy, LCD)

HH7). Simon
      (MB, lights, more of a tabletop really)

HH8). Tennis $2-Rikard
      (Tomytronics, VFD)

HH9). Highway 
      (Tandy, LCD)

HH10). Galaxian -$2-osu-uma
       (Coleco, VFD, BROKEN - circuit board
        cracked, good for parts or if you can
        work miracles with solder!)

************************************************
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous
************************************************

M1). Super Wildcard -$45-Grey
     (SNES cart copier, 24megabit, parallel PC
      port built-in, no p/supply -uses 9v)

M2). Vectrex controller -$18-Paul
     (Works fine)

M3). 3DO control pad -$6-DisKountrs
     (Tested)

M4). Atari 1010 Cassette -$5min
     
M5). Atari 1027 Printer -$5min

M6). Atari 1030 -$5min
     (300bps modem)

M7a). Atari Joysticks Set #1 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M7b). Atari Joysticks Set #2 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M7c). Atari Joysticks Set #3 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3min
      (1 pair, tested)

M8b). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3min
      (1 pair, tested)

M9). 12" diagonal Magnavox -$10min
      (monochrome monitor)
    
M10). PS/2 Model 25 -$10min
      (IBM's Mac imitation, tested)

M11). Commodore 1541 -$10-Mike Hollis
      (Disk Drive with power cord, tested)

M12). Commodore 1571 -$5-Mike Hollis
      (Disk Drive with power cord, untested)

M13). Commodore 1520 -$5min
      (color plotter, untested)

M14). SNES Developer Cards (2) -$10min
      (5 EPROM sockets on each card, unknown 
       games, one has 2 EPROMS, the other 1. 
       these are basically like carts)
************************************************
TERMS AND AGREEMENTS FOR ALL BIDDERS
************************************************

1). ALL BIDS ARE FINAL - If you make a bid, it 
is final. Do not bid on any item you don't 
intend to buy! 

2). PAYMENT FOR WINNING BIDS - Will be in $US
MONEY ORDERS or CASHIERS CHECK only. No checks
and I don't advise you send cash in the mail. In
the event of a winning bid, you send me the MO
and your address and I will send you the
item(s). Make MO/CC's out to:  Bill Stanton
                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~
3). TRADES - If you have something you want to
offer instead of cash, try me. Just don't refuse
to pay in cash if I refuse your trade offer. Any
item in the auction is subject to private trade,
but I will notify any bidders on that item in
the event someone offers me a lucrative trade.

4). SHIPPING COSTS - I make no guarantee that my
estimate of shipping costs are totally accurate.
I simply make an estimate.

5). BIDDING CRITERIA - Please follow the min.
bid increments as follows:

  $0-9   = $1
  $10-19 = $2
  $20-up = $5 

6). WINNING BIDS - Do send in your payment
within 5 days of my emailing you the final 
amount (shipping plus items). I am *still* 
waiting for some people to pay me from my last
auction (which ended in November)!

7). REMOVAL - Since some of these items aren't
mine, we reserve the right to remove any items
from the auction at any time.

8). AUCTION DURATION - We're going to run this
auction from 12/21/96 until 12/27/96 when it
will enter the going phase. This phase will go
ONCE, TWICE, GONE. Daily. Hopefully, it won't
drag out too long. The auction will formally 
conclude when all items either have winning bids 
or have been removed.

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Subject: Bill's Second Systems Auction:Update#5-NEC,NES,ATARI,ODY,VEC,TG16,SEGA,etc.12/26
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         **BILL'S SECOND AUCTION!!!**
             12/21/96 - 12/27/96
-----------------------------------------------
(2600-5200-7800-Vectrex-INTV-NES-Magnavox-C=64-
Turbo Duo-Odyssey-Fairchild-GameBoy-Saturn-3DO)

---See Terms & Agreements at end of document---
-----------------------------------------------
             NEWS ITEM BULLETINS

12/21: I made my first mistake! I included the
Fairchild carts in with the system AND an 
assortment (C7-C12). I've deleted the carts
from the system. Any bids on that system thus
far may be withdrawn.

12/21: Added a bunch of Atari and Commodore 
stuff to (S)ystems and (M)isc. categories. Plus
some other odd stuff... ;)

12/22: Notice - Channel F cart assortments are
not individual items... Please enter bids on 
the carts individually! I only grouped them to
differentiate between the boxed and unboxed 
carts.

12/22: REMINDER - Check the min. bid increments
at the bottom of the auction! People have been
bidding $1 increments on items over $10 and I
won't be accepting them after this update. Thx!

12/23: Added a Galaxian VFD to (H)andhelds, and
two SNES developer's EPROM cards.

12/24: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVE! Added some notes to
various items like the Super Wildcard.

12/25: NOTICE OF ITEM REMOVAL: As of tomorrow
(12/26) I will be REMOVING unbidded items to
streamline the auction document. If you want
any of these items and are waiting before you
bid, please do so now.

12/26: I HAVE moved all unbidded items to the 
bottom of each category listing or brand. As of
tomorrow, if they remain unbidded, they'll be 
removed.

12/26: AUCTION will be going into the GOING
phase tomorrow. All entered bids will be listed
as ONCE on 12/27. Bids that remain on the 28th 
will become TWICE and then SOLD the next day if
no other valid bids are entered on a given item.
Since I am not getting laid off this time, I am
not going to be accepting conditional bids as I
did with the last auction. There's no time
limit, I will allow bidding wars to continue
for a while. Besides, there was a bit of
confusion last time as to how conditional bids
worked...

-----------------------------------------------
CONTENTS:

SECTION I - Systems
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous

************************************************
SECTION I - Systems
************************************************
S1). Atari 2600 Bundle 1  -$8-John M
      (4 switch, ultra-clean, works/tested,
       includes Combat & Star Raiders carts w/
       Star Raiders overlay, multi-keypad & 2
       working joysticks)

S2). Odyssey II  -$10-Harry S
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers, no power
       supply - uses any Sega p/s)

S3). Vectrex  -$55-Sean Kelly
      (works/tested, w/ 1 controller, no carts)

S4). Fairchild Channel F -$25-DisKountrs
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers NO CARTS
       System II version by Zircon)

S5). NEC Turbo Duo -$60-Mr. Dynamo
      (works/tested, needs video cables, no CD's)

S6). Atari 5200 Boxed System -$25-Harry S
      (works/tested, complete w/ all docs, 100%
       working controllers, switchbox, etc. & 
       Super Breakout in SEALED box)

S7). Atari 7800 Boxed System -$17-Jon Kruse
      (tested, complete w/ Dig Dug, Pole 
       Position & Galaga, carts only)

S9). Intellivision -$12-Harry S
      (tested)

S10). Intellivision -$17-Ken
      (tested, w/ Intellivoice module)

S11). Nintendo NES -$9-Jon Kruse
      (2 controllers, Zapper, RF, no p/supply)

S12). Commodore 64 -$10-Mike
      (tested, w/ power supply)

S13). Nintendo NES -$20-Mr. Dynamo
      (tested, 2 controllers, RF, p/supply & gun)

S14). Sega Saturn -$70-stevek
      (tested, modified for US/Jap swap, removed
       CD cover door, 2 controllers)

S15). 3DO Testing Station -$85-Rikard 
      (tested, dev system,  w/ testing joypad,
       has toggle switch for test purposes)

S16). Atari 400 -$5-Fxites
      (tested, no power supply)

S17). Atari 1200XL -$5-Rikard 
      (tested, no power supply)

S18). Atari 130XE -$3-Fxites
      (broken keyboard (bad trace on keyboard 
       circuit), no power supply)

___________________________________________
--unbidded items slated for removal--
S8). Atari 2600 base unit -$5min 
      (tested, no power supply)


************************************************
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************
-->BID ON EACH CART INDIVIDUALLY!<--

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 1 
(these carts are w/ box and instructions)
C1). Cart #3 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Blackjack) 
C2). Cart #6 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Addition, Subtraction)
C3). Cart #7 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Multip, Div.)
C4). Cart #9 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Drag Strip) 
C5). Cart #12 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Baseball)
C6). Cart #15 $5-DisKountrs
     (Memory Match 1 & 2)

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 2
(these carts are WITHOUT boxes or instructions)
C7). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs
     (Tic-Tac-Toe, Shooting Gallery, Doodle,
      Quadra-Doodle)
C8). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs
     (same as above but different label,
      larger '#1' w/ picture icons)
C9). Cart #2  -$1-DisKountrs
     (Desert Fox, Shooting Gallery)
C10). Cart #3  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Video Blackjack)
C11). Cart #4  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Spitfire)
C12). Cart #12  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Baseball)

*** Atari 2600
___________________________________________
--unbidded items slated for removal--
C13). Donkey Kong (Coleco)  
C14). Frogger (Parker Brothers)
C52). Donkey Kong (Coleco)
C50). Outlaw (boxed)
C51). Homerun (boxed)

*** Intellivision
C40). Bomb Squad (uses Intellivoice) -$1-Jon
C47). Q*Bert -$1-Jon
C49). Burgertime -$1-Joey
___________________________________________
--unbidded items slated for removal--
C15). Space Battle (Mattel)
C16). Skiing (Mattel, in box w/manual)
C17). Poker & Blackjack (Mattel, in box)
C41). Space Battle
C42). Tennis
C43). Astrosmash
C44). Black Jack
C45). NBA Basketball
C46). Horse Racing
C48). NFL Football


*** Atari 8-bit Computers
C18). Centipede (Atari)  -$1-DisKountrs
C19). Touch Typing -$1-DisKountrs
      (Atari, cassette) 

*** Odyssey II
C20). Pick Axe Pete -$1-Jon Kruse
C21). Cosmic Conflict -$1-Jon Kruse
C22). Alien Invaders Plus -$1-Jon Kruse
C37). Out of This World/Helicopter Rescue-$1-Jon
C31). K.C. Munchkin -$1-Jon Kruse
C24). Showdown in 2100 AD -$1-Jon
C26). War of Nerves -$1-Jon
C27). Monkeyshines! -$1-Jon
C28). Quest for the Rings (Gold Label) -$1-Jon
___________________________________________
--unbidded items slated for removal--
C29). Invaders From Hyperspace
C30). Computer Golf
C25). Baseball!
C32). Thunderball
C33). Football
C34). Blockout/Breakdown
C35). Bowling/Basketball
C36). Sub Chase/Armored Encounter
C23). Electronic Table Soccer
C38). Speedway/Spin-out/Crypto Logic

************************************************
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************

HH1). Soccer -$3-Meatyard
      (Mattel, LED, tested, power switch is a 
       little touchy, but game works fine)

HH3). Safebuster $10-cougar
      (Nintendo G&W, LCD 2-screen)

HH4). Soccer -$1-Joey
      (Mattel, LED, tested but no battery cover)

HH5). Cosmic Clash $1-Rikard
      (Tomy, VFD)

HH7). Simon -$1-Joey
      (MB, lights, more of a tabletop really)

HH8). Tennis $2-Rikard
      (Tomytronics, VFD)

HH10). Galaxian -$5-Sean Kelly
       (Coleco, VFD, BROKEN - circuit board
        cracked, good for parts or if you can
        work miracles with solder!)
___________________________________________
--unbidded items slated for removal--
HH9). Highway 
      (Tandy, LCD)
HH2). Jurassic Park 
      (Tiger, LCD)
HH6). Fire Engine 
      (Tandy, LCD)

************************************************
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous
************************************************

M1). Super Wildcard -$45-Grey
     (SNES cart copier, 24megabit, parallel PC
      port built-in, no p/supply -uses 9v)

M2). Vectrex controller -$20-Sean Kelly
     (Works fine)

M3). 3DO control pad -$6-DisKountrs
     (Tested)

M11). Commodore 1541 -$10-Mike Hollis
      (Disk Drive with power cord, tested)

M12). Commodore 1571 -$5-Mike Hollis
      (Disk Drive with power cord, untested)

M14). SNES Developer Cards (2) -$10-Rikard
      (5 EPROM sockets on each card, unknown 
       games, one has 2 EPROMS, the other 1. 
       these are basically like carts)
___________________________________________
--unbidded items slated for removal--
M13). Commodore 1520 -$5min
      (color plotter, untested)
M10). PS/2 Model 25 -$10min
      (IBM's Mac imitation, tested)
M4). Atari 1010 Cassette -$5min
M5). Atari 1027 Printer -$5min
M6). Atari 1030 -$5min
     (300bps modem)
M7a). Atari Joysticks Set #1 -$3min
      (2, both tested)
M7b). Atari Joysticks Set #2 -$3min
      (2, both tested)
M7c). Atari Joysticks Set #3 -$3min
      (2, both tested)
M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3min
      (1 pair, tested)
M8b). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3min
      (1 pair, tested)
M9). 12" diagonal Magnavox -$10min
      (monochrome monitor)

************************************************
TERMS AND AGREEMENTS FOR ALL BIDDERS
************************************************

1). ALL BIDS ARE FINAL - If you make a bid, it 
is final. Do not bid on any item you don't 
intend to buy! 

2). PAYMENT FOR WINNING BIDS - Will be in $US
MONEY ORDERS or CASHIERS CHECK only. No checks
and I don't advise you send cash in the mail. In
the event of a winning bid, you send me the MO
and your address and I will send you the
item(s). Make MO/CC's out to:  Bill Stanton
                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~
3). TRADES - If you have something you want to
offer instead of cash, try me. Just don't refuse
to pay in cash if I refuse your trade offer. Any
item in the auction is subject to private trade,
but I will notify any bidders on that item in
the event someone offers me a lucrative trade.

4). SHIPPING COSTS - I make no guarantee that my
estimate of shipping costs are totally accurate.
I simply make an estimate.

5). BIDDING CRITERIA - Please follow the min.
bid increments as follows:

  $0-9   = $1
  $10-19 = $2
  $20-up = $5 

6). WINNING BIDS - Do send in your payment
within 5 days of my emailing you the final 
amount (shipping plus items). I am *still* 
waiting for some people to pay me from my last
auction (which ended in November)!

7). REMOVAL - Since some of these items aren't
mine, we reserve the right to remove any items
from the auction at any time.

8). AUCTION DURATION - We're going to run this
auction from 12/21/96 until 12/27/96 when it
will enter the going phase. This phase will go
ONCE, TWICE, GONE. Daily. Hopefully, it won't
drag out too long. The auction will formally 
conclude when all items either have winning bids 
or have been removed.

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From: Glenn Saunders <krishna@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex
Subject: Re: Vectrex out of patent?
Date: 26 Dec 1996 12:49:01 -0700
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The mortal Wayne Morellini wrote:
: What I was implying is if this were the case another company could copy the
: design and make a Vectrex compatable system, though I have no interest in
: doing it.

I don't think so because this would be for profit and GCE probably
wouldn't like that.  Believe me, I am interested in the answer to this
question as I have a project brewing.



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For sale:

3D Goggles with instructions
Both types of color wheels
All 3 games (minestorm3D, Narrow Escape, Crazy Coaster)
no boxes

Best offer over $350



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From: waltdg@aol.com (WaltDG)
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Subject: Re: Vectrex out of patent?
Date: 27 Dec 1996 00:09:02 GMT
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I believe patents can last only up to a maxium of 17 years. After that all
or most of the protections a patent provides are gone. The only problem is
that the protection for the copyrighted components (such as code stored in
ROMS) can last indefinitily. 

Even though it hasn't been 17 years, the Vectrex might be out of patent
because the patent holder must maintain the patent by paying money every
year or so.

Most of this information comes from a book I read sometime ago, so please
excuse anything that might be incorrect.

Walt

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Hello!

Thank you for showing interest in the DisKounters Video Game Catalog.  At
this time, we request you let us know if you want to receive the entire
game catalog, or just specific systems.  We are trying to simplify our
catalog system, and make it easier for you.

Please put an "X" in the appropriate box (or cut & paste) for the
pricelists you are interested in.  Some pricelists are still in the works,
but we plan to have most of them ready by Jan 1st.

[  ]   Entire Catalog

[  ]   Turbo Grafx 16 / Turbo Duo / PC Engine

[  ]   Atari 2600
[  ]   Atari 5200
[  ]   Atari 7800
[  ]   Atari Lynx
[  ]   Atari Jaguar (Carts & CD's)

[  ]   Bally Astrocade

[  ]   CD Interactive (CD-I)

[  ]   Colecovision

[  ]   Emerson Arcadia 2001

[  ]   Fairchild Channel F

[  ]   Intellivision

[  ]   Magnavox Odyssey 2

[  ]   NEO GEO (Carts & CD's)

[  ]   Nintendo
[  ]   Super Nintendo
[  ]   Game Boy / Pocket Game Boy
[  ]   Virtual Boy
[  ]   Nintendo 64

[  ]   Sega Master System
[  ]   Sega Genesis / Sega Nomad
[  ]   Sega CD
[  ]   Sega 32X
[  ]   Sega Game Gear
[  ]   Sega Pico
[  ]   Sega Saturn

[  ]   Sony Playstation

[  ]   Vectrex

[  ]   3DO

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Subject: Re: Vectrex out of patent?
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In article <59ukrd$9ku@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>,
Glenn Saunders  <krishna@primenet.com> wrote:
>The mortal Wayne Morellini wrote:
>: What I was implying is if this were the case another company could copy the
>: design and make a Vectrex compatable system, though I have no interest in
>: doing it.
>
>I don't think so because this would be for profit and GCE probably
>wouldn't like that.  Believe me, I am interested in the answer to this
>question as I have a project brewing.

A project brewing?

wow.  Of course I don't think a Vectrex will really sell enough to justify
production costs, unless it were sold maybe at Spencer's with more than
one built-in game.  I saw Spencer's because that's where you go to buy
things that will look really cool in your room like posters, lava lamps,
and black lights, and the Vectrex would probably better serve that purpose
than that of a game system in the post-crash era.


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I would like to make a bid on :


S7). Atari 7800 Boxed System Bundle -$11-John M
      (tested, complete w/ Dig Dug, Pole
       Position & Galaga, carts only)

I would like to offer $14 dollars
plese E-mail me at ginib@flash.net


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From: waynem1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au (Wayne Morellini)
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Subject: Re: Vectrex out of patent?
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Nick S Bensema (nickb@primenet.com) wrote:
: In article <59ukrd$9ku@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>,
: Glenn Saunders  <krishna@primenet.com> wrote:
: >The mortal Wayne Morellini wrote:
: >: What I was implying is if this were the case another company could copy the
: >: design and make a Vectrex compatable system, though I have no interest in
: >: doing it.
: >
: >I don't think so because this would be for profit and GCE probably
: >wouldn't like that.  Believe me, I am interested in the answer to this
: >question as I have a project brewing.

: A project brewing?

: wow.  Of course I don't think a Vectrex will really sell enough to justify
: production costs, unless it were sold maybe at Spencer's with more than
: one built-in game.  I saw Spencer's because that's where you go to buy
: things that will look really cool in your room like posters, lava lamps,
: and black lights, and the Vectrex would probably better serve that purpose
: than that of a game system in the post-crash era.

Good Idea, a value added item? Would be good a retro Vectrex.

Wayne.

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Subject: Bill's Second Systems Auction:Update#4-NEC,NES,ATARI,ODY,VEC,TG16,SEGA,etc.
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         **BILL'S SECOND AUCTION!!!**
             12/21/96 - 12/27/96
-----------------------------------------------
(2600-5200-7800-Vectrex-INTV-NES-Magnavox-C=64-
Turbo Duo-Odyssey-Fairchild-GameBoy-Saturn-3DO)

---See Terms & Agreements at end of document---
-----------------------------------------------
             NEWS ITEM BULLETINS

12/21: I made my first mistake! I included the
Fairchild carts in with the system AND an 
assortment (C7-C12). I've deleted the carts
from the system. Any bids on that system thus
far may be withdrawn.

12/21: Added a bunch of Atari and Commodore 
stuff to (S)ystems and (M)isc. categories. Plus
some other odd stuff... ;)

12/22: Notice - Channel F cart assortments are
not individual items... Please enter bids on 
the carts individually! I only grouped them to
differentiate between the boxed and unboxed 
carts.

12/22: REMINDER - Check the min. bid increments
at the bottom of the auction! People have been
bidding $1 increments on items over $10 and I
won't be accepting them after this update. Thx!

12/23: Added a Galaxian VFD to (H)andhelds, and
two SNES developer's EPROM cards.

12/24: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVE! Added some notes to
various items like the Super Wildcard.

12/25: NOTICE OF ITEM REMOVAL: As of tomorrow
(12/26) I will be REMOVING unbidded items to
streamline the auction document. If you want
any of these items and are waiting before you
bid, please do so now.

-----------------------------------------------
CONTENTS:

SECTION I - Systems
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous

************************************************
SECTION I - Systems
************************************************
S1). Atari 2600 Bundle 1  -$8-John M
      (4 switch, ultra-clean, works/tested,
       includes Combat & Star Raiders carts w/
       Star Raiders overlay, multi-keypad & 2
       working joysticks)

S2). Odyssey II  -$7-Jon Kruse
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers, no power
       supply - uses any Sega p/s)

S3). Vectrex  -$50-DisKountrs
      (works/tested, w/ 1 controller, no carts)

S4). Fairchild Channel F -$25-DisKountrs
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers NO CARTS
       System II version by Zircon)

S5). NEC Turbo Duo -$60-Mr. Dynamo
      (works/tested, needs video cables, no CD's)

S6). Atari 5200 Boxed System -$20-Macra
      (works/tested, complete w/ all docs, 100%
       working controllers, switchbox, etc. & 
       Super Breakout in SEALED box)

S7). Atari 7800 Boxed System -$17-Jon Kruse
      (tested, complete w/ Dig Dug, Pole 
       Position & Galaga, carts only)

S8). Atari 2600 base unit -$5min 
      (tested, no power supply)

S9). Intellivision -$7-Jon Kruse
      (tested)

S10). Intellivision -$17-Ken
      (tested, w/ Intellivoice module)

S11). Nintendo NES -$8-adam
      (2 controllers, Zapper, RF, no p/supply)

S12). Commodore 64 -$10-Mike
      (tested, w/ power supply)

S13). Nintendo NES -$20-Mr. Dynamo
      (tested, 2 controllers, RF, p/supply & gun)

S14). Sega Saturn -$65-Grey
      (tested, modified for US/Jap swap, removed
       CD cover door, 2 controllers)

S15). 3DO Testing Station -$85-Rikard 
      (tested, dev system,  w/ testing joypad,
       has toggle switch for test purposes)

S16). Atari 400 -$5-Fxites
      (tested, no power supply)

S17). Atari 1200XL -$5-Rikard 
      (tested, no power supply)

S18). Atari 130XE -$3-Fxites
      (broken keyboard (bad trace on keyboard 
       circuit), no power supply)


************************************************
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************
-->BID ON EACH CART INDIVIDUALLY!<--

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 1 
(these carts are w/ box and instructions)
C1). Cart #3 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Blackjack) 
C2). Cart #6 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Addition, Subtraction)
C3). Cart #7 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Multip, Div.)
C4). Cart #9 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Drag Strip) 
C5). Cart #12 -$2-DisKountrs
     (Baseball)
C6). Cart #15 $5-DisKountrs
     (Memory Match 1 & 2)

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 2
(these carts are WITHOUT boxes or instructions)
C7). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs
     (Tic-Tac-Toe, Shooting Gallery, Doodle,
      Quadra-Doodle)
C8). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs
     (same as above but different label,
      larger '#1' w/ picture icons)
C9). Cart #2  -$1-DisKountrs
     (Desert Fox, Shooting Gallery)
C10). Cart #3  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Video Blackjack)
C11). Cart #4  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Spitfire)
C12). Cart #12  -$1-DisKountrs
      (Baseball)

*** Atari 2600
C13). Donkey Kong (Coleco)  
C14). Frogger (Parker Brothers)
C52). Donkey Kong (Coleco)
C50). Outlaw (boxed)
C51). Homerun (boxed)

*** Intellivision
C15). Space Battle (Mattel)
C16). Skiing (Mattel, in box w/manual)
C17). Poker & Blackjack (Mattel, in box)
C40). Bomb Squad (uses Intellivoice) -$1-Jon
C41). Space Battle
C42). Tennis
C43). Astrosmash
C44). Black Jack
C45). NBA Basketball
C46). Horse Racing
C47). Q*Bert -$1-Jon
C48). NFL Football
C49). Burgertime

*** Atari 8-bit Computers
C18). Centipede (Atari)  -$1-DisKountrs
C19). Touch Typing -$1-DisKountrs
      (Atari, cassette) 

*** Odyssey II
C20). Pick Axe Pete -$1-Jon
C21). Cosmic Conflict
C22). Alien Invaders Plus
C23). Electronic Table Soccer
C24). Showdown in 2100 AD -$1-Jon
C25). Baseball!
C26). War of Nerves -$1-Jon
C27). Monkeyshines! -$1-Jon
C28). Quest for the Rings (Gold Label) -$1-Jon
C29). Invaders From Hyperspace
C30). Computer Golf
C31). K.C. Munchkin
C32). Thunderball
C33). Football
C34). Blockout/Breakdown
C35). Bowling/Basketball
C36). Sub Chase/Armored Encounter
C37). Out of This World/Helicopter Rescue-$1-Jon
C38). Speedway/Spin-out/Crypto Logic

************************************************
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************

HH1). Soccer -$3-Meatyard
      (Mattel, LED, tested, power switch is a 
       little touchy, but game works fine)

HH2). Jurassic Park 
      (Tiger, LCD)

HH3). Safebuster $4-Rikard
      (Nintendo G&W, LCD 2-screen)

HH4). Soccer 
      (Mattel, LED, tested but no battery cover)

HH5). Cosmic Clash $1-Rikard
      (Tomy, VFD)

HH6). Fire Engine 
      (Tandy, LCD)

HH7). Simon
      (MB, lights, more of a tabletop really)

HH8). Tennis $2-Rikard
      (Tomytronics, VFD)

HH9). Highway 
      (Tandy, LCD)

HH10). Galaxian -$3-Rikard
       (Coleco, VFD, BROKEN - circuit board
        cracked, good for parts or if you can
        work miracles with solder!)

************************************************
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous
************************************************

M1). Super Wildcard -$45-Grey
     (SNES cart copier, 24megabit, parallel PC
      port built-in, no p/supply -uses 9v)

M2). Vectrex controller -$18-Paul
     (Works fine)

M3). 3DO control pad -$6-DisKountrs
     (Tested)

M4). Atari 1010 Cassette -$5min
     
M5). Atari 1027 Printer -$5min

M6). Atari 1030 -$5min
     (300bps modem)

M7a). Atari Joysticks Set #1 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M7b). Atari Joysticks Set #2 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M7c). Atari Joysticks Set #3 -$3min
      (2, both tested)

M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3min
      (1 pair, tested)

M8b). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3min
      (1 pair, tested)

M9). 12" diagonal Magnavox -$10min
      (monochrome monitor)
    
M10). PS/2 Model 25 -$10min
      (IBM's Mac imitation, tested)

M11). Commodore 1541 -$10-Mike Hollis
      (Disk Drive with power cord, tested)

M12). Commodore 1571 -$5-Mike Hollis
      (Disk Drive with power cord, untested)

M13). Commodore 1520 -$5min
      (color plotter, untested)

M14). SNES Developer Cards (2) -$10-Rikard
      (5 EPROM sockets on each card, unknown 
       games, one has 2 EPROMS, the other 1. 
       these are basically like carts)
************************************************
TERMS AND AGREEMENTS FOR ALL BIDDERS
************************************************

1). ALL BIDS ARE FINAL - If you make a bid, it 
is final. Do not bid on any item you don't 
intend to buy! 

2). PAYMENT FOR WINNING BIDS - Will be in $US
MONEY ORDERS or CASHIERS CHECK only. No checks
and I don't advise you send cash in the mail. In
the event of a winning bid, you send me the MO
and your address and I will send you the
item(s). Make MO/CC's out to:  Bill Stanton
                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~
3). TRADES - If you have something you want to
offer instead of cash, try me. Just don't refuse
to pay in cash if I refuse your trade offer. Any
item in the auction is subject to private trade,
but I will notify any bidders on that item in
the event someone offers me a lucrative trade.

4). SHIPPING COSTS - I make no guarantee that my
estimate of shipping costs are totally accurate.
I simply make an estimate.

5). BIDDING CRITERIA - Please follow the min.
bid increments as follows:

  $0-9   = $1
  $10-19 = $2
  $20-up = $5 

6). WINNING BIDS - Do send in your payment
within 5 days of my emailing you the final 
amount (shipping plus items). I am *still* 
waiting for some people to pay me from my last
auction (which ended in November)!

7). REMOVAL - Since some of these items aren't
mine, we reserve the right to remove any items
from the auction at any time.

8). AUCTION DURATION - We're going to run this
auction from 12/21/96 until 12/27/96 when it
will enter the going phase. This phase will go
ONCE, TWICE, GONE. Daily. Hopefully, it won't
drag out too long. The auction will formally 
conclude when all items either have winning bids 
or have been removed.

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From: waynem1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au (Wayne Morellini)
Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex
Subject: Re: Vectrex out of patent?
Date: 27 Dec 1996 07:31:52 GMT
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WaltDG (waltdg@aol.com) wrote:
: I believe patents can last only up to a maxium of 17 years. After that all
: or most of the protections a patent provides are gone. The only problem is
: that the protection for the copyrighted components (such as code stored in
: ROMS) can last indefinitily. 

Well 50 years from a certain date.

Thats why I asked if the code had only certain entry points that can be
used, meaning that the same entry pionts could be used with rewritten exec
code which would not violate copyright in the states.

: Even though it hasn't been 17 years, the Vectrex might be out of patent
: because the patent holder must maintain the patent by paying money every
: year or so.

Once these patents do pass out the hole patented design is up for grabs. 
The patent system only lets inventors exploite their ideas and make money
for a limited time, after thios time the invention is Public Domain.

Wayne.
 
: Most of this information comes from a book I read sometime ago, so please
: excuse anything that might be incorrect.

: Walt

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Subject: Serial Numbers?
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Folks, anyone have any idea how many Vectrexes (Vectri?) were made?  The  
two I have have serial numbers in the 48,000s and 138,000s.  Assuming the  
serial numbers are sequential, that's quite a run for an expensive home  
machine that came out during the video game crash...

--
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
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         **BILL'S SECOND AUCTION!!!**
             12/21/96 - 12/27/96
-----------------------------------------------
(2600-5200-7800-Vectrex-INTV-NES-Magnavox-C=64-
Turbo Duo-Odyssey-Fairchild-GameBoy-Saturn-3DO)

---See Terms & Agreements at end of document---
-----------------------------------------------
             NEWS ITEM BULLETINS

12/21: I made my first mistake! I included the
Fairchild carts in with the system AND an 
assortment (C7-C12). I've deleted the carts
from the system. Any bids on that system thus
far may be withdrawn.

12/21: Added a bunch of Atari and Commodore 
stuff to (S)ystems and (M)isc. categories. Plus
some other odd stuff... ;)

12/22: Notice - Channel F cart assortments are
not individual items... Please enter bids on 
the carts individually! I only grouped them to
differentiate between the boxed and unboxed 
carts.

12/22: REMINDER - Check the min. bid increments
at the bottom of the auction! People have been
bidding $1 increments on items over $10 and I
won't be accepting them after this update. Thx!

12/23: Added a Galaxian VFD to (H)andhelds, and
two SNES developer's EPROM cards.

12/24: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVE! Added some notes to
various items like the Super Wildcard.

12/25: NOTICE OF ITEM REMOVAL: As of tomorrow
(12/26) I will be REMOVING unbidded items to
streamline the auction document. If you want
any of these items and are waiting before you
bid, please do so now.

12/26: I HAVE moved all unbidded items to the 
bottom of each category listing or brand. As of
tomorrow, if they remain unbidded, they'll be 
removed.

12/26: AUCTION will be going into the GOING
phase tomorrow. All entered bids will be listed
as ONCE on 12/27. Bids that remain on the 28th 
will become TWICE and then SOLD the next day if
no other valid bids are entered on a given item.
Since I am not getting laid off this time, I am
not going to be accepting conditional bids as I
did with the last auction. There's no time
limit, I will allow bidding wars to continue
for a while. Besides, there was a bit of
confusion last time as to how conditional bids
worked...

12/26: SECOND UPDATE OF THE DAY - I will now
be sending out two updates per day, until the 
end of the auction. Unfortunately, I think I 
may have messed up a couple of the items bids.
If you see an item that you made a bid on and
you don't see it (and there has been no new bid
on that item), please let me know and accept
my apologies. The holiday and all has been very
competitive for my brain processing time! :)

-----------------------------------------------
CONTENTS:

SECTION I - Systems
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous

************************************************
SECTION I - Systems
************************************************
S1). Atari 2600 Bundle 1  $12-Ray*ONCE*
      (4 switch, ultra-clean, works/tested,
       includes Combat & Star Raiders carts w/
       Star Raiders overlay, multi-keypad & 2
       working joysticks)

S2). Odyssey II $17-Jon*ONCE*
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers, no power
       supply - uses any Sega p/s)

S3). Vectrex  -$67-Ray*ONCE*
      (works/tested, w/ 1 controller, no carts)

S4). Fairchild Channel F -$30-Ray*ONCE*
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers NO CARTS
       System II version by Zircon)

S5). NEC Turbo Duo -$70-cougar*ONCE*
      (works/tested, needs video cables, no CD's)

S6). Atari 5200 Boxed (4-prt)$25-Harry S*ONCE*
      (works/tested, complete w/ all docs, 100%
       working controllers, switchbox, etc. & 
       Super Breakout in SEALED box)

S7). Atari 7800 Boxed System -$20-MIKE_A_LOUIE
*ONCE*
      (tested, complete w/ Dig Dug, Pole 
       Position & Galaga, carts only)

S9). Intellivision -$14-Jon*ONCE*
      (tested)

S10). Intellivision -$22-Ken*ONCE*
      (tested, w/ Intellivoice module)

S11). Nintendo NES -$9-Jon *ONCE*
      (2 controllers, Zapper, RF, no p/supply)

S12). Commodore 64 -$10-Mike*ONCE*
      (tested, w/ power supply)

S13). Nintendo NES -$20-Mr. Dynamo*ONCE*
      (tested, 2 controllers, RF, p/supply & gun)

S14). Sega Saturn -$70-stevek*ONCE*
      (tested, modified for US/Jap swap, removed
       CD cover door, 2 controllers)

S15). 3DO Testing Station -$85-Rikard *ONCE*
      (tested, dev system,  w/ testing joypad,
       has toggle switch for test purposes)

S16). Atari 400 -$5-Fxites*ONCE*
      (tested, no power supply)

S17). Atari 1200XL -$5-Rikard *ONCE*
      (tested, no power supply)

S18). Atari 130XE -$3-Fxites*ONCE*
      (broken keyboard (bad trace on keyboard 
       circuit), no power supply)

************************************************
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************
-->BID ON EACH CART INDIVIDUALLY!<--

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 1 
(these carts are w/ box and instructions)
C1). Cart #3 -$3-Rikard*ONCE*
     (Blackjack) 
C2). Cart #6 -$3-Rikard*ONCE*
     (Addition, Subtraction)
C3). Cart #7 -$3-Rikard*ONCE*
     (Multip, Div.)
C4). Cart #9 -$3-Rikard*ONCE*
     (Drag Strip) 
C5). Cart #12 -$3-Rikard*ONCE*
     (Baseball)
C6). Cart #15 $6-Rikard*ONCE*
     (Memory Match 1 & 2)

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 2
(these carts are WITHOUT boxes or instructions)
C7). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Tic-Tac-Toe, Shooting Gallery, Doodle,
      Quadra-Doodle)
C8). Cart #1 -$2-Ray*ONCE*
     (same as above but different label,
      larger '#1' w/ picture icons)
C9). Cart #2  -$2-Ray*ONCE*
     (Desert Fox, Shooting Gallery)
C10). Cart #3  -$1-DisKountrs*ONCE*
      (Video Blackjack)
C11). Cart #4  -$1-DisKountrs*ONCE*
      (Spitfire)
C12). Cart #12  -$2-Ray*ONCE*
      (Baseball)

*** Atari 2600
C13). Donkey Kong (Coleco)  -.50-Ray*ONCE*
C14). Frogger (Parker Brothers) -.50-Ray*ONCE*
C52). Donkey Kong (Coleco) -.50-Ray*ONCE*
C50). Outlaw (boxed) -$1-Rikard*ONCE*
C51). Homerun (boxed) -$1-Rikard*ONCE*

*** Intellivision
C40). Bomb Squad (uses Intellivoice) -$1-Jon*ONCE*
C47). Q*Bert -$1-Jon*ONCE*
C49). Burgertime -$1-Joey*ONCE*
C15). Space Battle (Mattel) -$1-Gary*ONCE*
C16). Skiing (Mattel, in box w/manual)-$1-Gary*ONCE*
C17). Poker & Blackjack (Mattel, in box)-$1-Gary*ONCE*
C41). Space Battle-$1-Gary*ONCE*
C42). Tennis-$1-Gary*ONCE*
C43). Astrosmash-$1-Gary*ONCE*
C44). Black Jack-$1-Gary*ONCE*
C45). NBA Basketball-$1-Gary*ONCE*
C46). Horse Racing-$1-Gary*ONCE*
C48). NFL Football-$1-Gary*ONCE*


*** Atari 8-bit Computers
C18). Centipede (Atari)  -$1-DisKountrs*ONCE*
C19). Touch Typing -$1-DisKountrs*ONCE*
      (Atari, cassette) 

*** Odyssey II
C20). Pick Axe Pete -$4-Jon*ONCE*
C21). Cosmic Conflict -$4-Jon*ONCE*
C22). Alien Invaders Plus -$1-Jon*ONCE*
C37). Out of This World/Helicopter Rescue-$1-Jon*ONCE*
C31). K.C. Munchkin -$1-Jon*ONCE*
C24). Showdown in 2100 AD -$1-Jon*ONCE*
C26). War of Nerves -$1-Jon*ONCE*
C27). Monkeyshines! -$3-Jon*ONCE*
C28). Quest for the Rings (Gold Label)-$3-Jon*ONCE*

C29). Invaders From Hyperspace -$1.50-Jon*ONCE*
C30). Computer Golf-.50-Ray*ONCE*
C25). Baseball!-.50-Ray*ONCE*
C32). Thunderball--$1.50-Jon*ONCE*
C33). Football-.50-Ray*ONCE*
C34). Blockout/Breakdown--$1.50-Jon*ONCE*
C35). Bowling/Basketball-.50-Ray*ONCE*
C36). Sub Chase/Armored Encounter--$1.50-Jon*ONCE*
C23). Electronic Table Soccer--$1.50-Jon*ONCE*
C38). Speedway/Spin-out/Crypto Logic-.50-Ray*ONCE*

************************************************
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************

HH1). Soccer -$3-Meatyard*ONCE*
      (Mattel, LED, tested, power switch is a 
       little touchy, but game works fine)

HH2). Jurassic Park -$1-Rikard*ONCE*
      (Tiger, LCD)

HH3). Safebuster $12-Rikard*ONCE*
      (Nintendo G&W, LCD 2-screen)

HH4). Soccer -$2-cougar*ONCE*
      (Mattel, LED, tested but no battery cover)

HH5). Cosmic Clash $2-cougar*ONCE*
      (Tomy, VFD)

HH7). Simon -$1-Joey*ONCE*
      (MB, lights, more of a tabletop really)

HH8). Tennis $2-Rikard*ONCE*
      (Tomytronics, VFD)

HH10). Galaxian -$6-Rikard*ONCE*
       (Coleco, VFD, BROKEN - circuit board
        cracked, good for parts or if you can
        work miracles with solder!)

************************************************
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous
************************************************

M1). Super Wildcard -$50-Victoria*ONCE*
     (SNES cart copier, 24megabit, parallel PC
      port built-in, no p/supply -uses 9v)

M2). Vectrex controller -$20-Sean*ONCE*
     (Works fine)

M3). 3DO control pad -$6-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Tested)

M7a). Atari Joysticks Set #1 -$3-PatMan*ONCE*
      (2, both tested)

M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3-Ray*ONCE*
      (1 pair, tested)

M8b). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3-PatMan*ONCE*
      (1 pair, tested)

M11). Commodore 1541 -$12-cougar*ONCE*
      (Disk Drive with power cord, tested)

M12). Commodore 1571 -$5-Mike Hollis*ONCE*
      (Disk Drive with power cord, untested)

M14). SNES Developer Cards (2) -$15-Kester*ONCE*
      (5 EPROM sockets on each card, unknown 
       games, one has 2 EPROMS, the other 1. 
       these are basically like carts)

************************************************
TERMS AND AGREEMENTS FOR ALL BIDDERS
************************************************

1). ALL BIDS ARE FINAL - If you make a bid, it 
is final. Do not bid on any item you don't 
intend to buy! 

2). PAYMENT FOR WINNING BIDS - Will be in $US
MONEY ORDERS or CASHIERS CHECK only. No checks
and I don't advise you send cash in the mail. In
the event of a winning bid, you send me the MO
and your address and I will send you the
item(s). Make MO/CC's out to:  Bill Stanton
                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~
3). TRADES - If you have something you want to
offer instead of cash, try me. Just don't refuse
to pay in cash if I refuse your trade offer. Any
item in the auction is subject to private trade,
but I will notify any bidders on that item in
the event someone offers me a lucrative trade.

4). SHIPPING COSTS - I make no guarantee that my
estimate of shipping costs are totally accurate.
I simply make an estimate.

5). BIDDING CRITERIA - Please follow the min.
bid increments as follows:

  $0-9   = $1
  $10-19 = $2
  $20-up = $5 

6). WINNING BIDS - Do send in your payment
within 5 days of my emailing you the final 
amount (shipping plus items). I am *still* 
waiting for some people to pay me from my last
auction (which ended in November)!

7). REMOVAL - Since some of these items aren't
mine, we reserve the right to remove any items
from the auction at any time.

8). AUCTION DURATION - We're going to run this
auction from 12/21/96 until 12/27/96 when it
will enter the going phase. This phase will go
ONCE, TWICE, GONE. Daily. Hopefully, it won't
drag out too long. The auction will formally 
conclude when all items either have winning bids 
or have been removed.

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From: nickb@primenet.com (Nick S Bensema)
Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex
Subject: Re: Vectrex out of patent?
Date: 27 Dec 1996 14:50:03 -0700
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In article <59vtm1$n14@janus.cqu.edu.au>,
Wayne Morellini <waynem1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au> wrote:
>Nick S Bensema (nickb@primenet.com) wrote:
>
>: A project brewing?
>
>: wow.  Of course I don't think a Vectrex will really sell enough to justify
>: production costs, unless it were sold maybe at Spencer's with more than
>: one built-in game.  I saw Spencer's because that's where you go to buy
>: things that will look really cool in your room like posters, lava lamps,
>: and black lights, and the Vectrex would probably better serve that purpose
>: than that of a game system in the post-crash era.
>
>Good Idea, a value added item? Would be good a retro Vectrex.

That's why I wanted to push the laser idea.  It would sell better if it
looked cooler.  Of course the stock Vectrex looks cool enough to sell, and
if it were equipped in a larger, more arcade-like case, it would sell even
more, especially if made to look a lot like Atari games from that era and
the original decals.

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From: dsiegel@soca.com (DS)
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Subject: FS: Vectrex system
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:23:42 GMT
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Vectrex System

- Near Mint Condition
- Two Joysticks (one is loose)
- Games included: WebWars, Spinball, Blitz!

Best offer takes the system!


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From: "C.E. Forman" <ceforman@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
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Subject: FAQ me, please
Date: 28 Dec 1996 00:12:34 GMT
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Could someone please direct me to the FAQ for this group?  Thanks.

--
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Now @ ftp://ftp.gmd.de/if-archive/games/competition96/delusns/DELUSION.Z5
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From: rksnowman@aol.com (Rksnowman)
Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex
Subject: WTB: Vectrex and Colecovision
Date: 28 Dec 1996 13:13:00 GMT
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Hi!

I want to buy some Vectrex and Colecovision carts.
Please send list with prices to: rksnowman@aol.com

Thanks
Ralf

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From: rayd@pipeline.com (Raynaldo Diaz)
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Subject: Virtually Brand New Vectrex System
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I have a vectrex system that is virtually brand new.  This is a system
that has less than 50 hours of use and is still in its original box.
I've had it in my closet all these years and am about to bring it out
to test and prepare for shipping to anyone that is interested in
buying it.  I've got a bunch of games for it for which they all have
their overlays.  I would like to sell it completely rather than
separately from the cartridges.  The reason why I haven't taken it
down yet is because it's in a very big closet, stored with alot of
other stuff in front of it.  I will only bother to take it down if
someone is interested in buying it.  I came across this newsgroup
almost by accident and couldn't believe people are still using this
platform for gaming.  I also have an ATARI 5200 that is virtually
brand new, also in its original box.  I am an impulse buyer that buys,
trys and then stores away to make room for the next impulse purchase.
Anyone interested in this system, please contact me if seriously
considering purchase, at:   rayd@pipeline.com


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From: rksnowman@aol.com (Rksnowman)
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Subject: WTB: Vectrex and Colecovision
Date: 29 Dec 1996 00:20:01 GMT
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Hi!

I want to buy some Vectrex and Colecovision carts.
Please send list with prices to: rksnowman@aol.com

Thanks
Ralf

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From: bstanton@wco.com (Bill Stanton)
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         **BILL'S SECOND AUCTION!!!**
             12/21/96 - 12/27/96
-----------------------------------------------
(2600-5200-7800-Vectrex-INTV-NES-Magnavox-C=64-
Turbo Duo-Odyssey-Fairchild-GameBoy-Saturn-3DO)

---See Terms & Agreements at end of document---
-----------------------------------------------
             NEWS ITEM BULLETINS

12/21: I made my first mistake! I included the
Fairchild carts in with the system AND an 
assortment (C7-C12). I've deleted the carts
from the system. Any bids on that system thus
far may be withdrawn.

12/21: Added a bunch of Atari and Commodore 
stuff to (S)ystems and (M)isc. categories. Plus
some other odd stuff... ;)

12/22: Notice - Channel F cart assortments are
not individual items... Please enter bids on 
the carts individually! I only grouped them to
differentiate between the boxed and unboxed 
carts.

12/22: REMINDER - Check the min. bid increments
at the bottom of the auction! People have been
bidding $1 increments on items over $10 and I
won't be accepting them after this update. Thx!

12/23: Added a Galaxian VFD to (H)andhelds, and
two SNES developer's EPROM cards.

12/24: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVE! Added some notes to
various items like the Super Wildcard.

12/25: NOTICE OF ITEM REMOVAL: As of tomorrow
(12/26) I will be REMOVING unbidded items to
streamline the auction document. If you want
any of these items and are waiting before you
bid, please do so now.

12/26: I HAVE moved all unbidded items to the 
bottom of each category listing or brand. As of
tomorrow, if they remain unbidded, they'll be 
removed.

12/26: AUCTION will be going into the GOING
phase tomorrow. All entered bids will be listed
as ONCE on 12/27. Bids that remain on the 28th 
will become TWICE and then SOLD the next day if
no other valid bids are entered on a given item.
Since I am not getting laid off this time, I am
not going to be accepting conditional bids as I
did with the last auction. There's no time
limit, I will allow bidding wars to continue
for a while. Besides, there was a bit of
confusion last time as to how conditional bids
worked...

12/27: SECOND UPDATE OF THE DAY - I will now
be sending out two updates per day, until the 
end of the auction. Unfortunately, I think I 
may have messed up a couple of the items bids.
If you see an item that you made a bid on and
you don't see it (and there has been no new bid
on that item), please let me know and accept
my apologies. The holiday and all has been very
competitive for my brain processing time! :)

12/27-28: FIRST GOING UPDATE! As of this update,
I have deleted items which were not yet bidded
on and tried to fix any bidding errors I made.
Please note that if a system or cart doesn't
list something (like power supply, box, etc.)
DO NOT EXPECT IT TO COME WITH IT! I have tried
to give detailed explanations on items but if 
you have a question, ASK! I will reply within 
hours with info. A brief word on updates and
"ONCE, TWICE" stuff. ALL ITEMS WILL GO FROM 
ONCE TO TWICE TOMORROW. NOT on this update!
Items will not go from ONCE to TWICE to GONE
between a morning and evening update. Rather, 
I am doing on a day to day basis. Ex: Item S1).
went to *ONCE* this morning. It got no bids 
today. It will be still listed as *ONCE* on
this update and will not be changed to *TWICE*
until tomorrow (assuming it doesn't get a new 
bid by morning, in which case it will remain
*ONCE*). --Any questions? Email me! BTW, I
removed a second Donkey Kong which was a dupe
of an existing cart.

12/28: SECOND GOING UPDATE: I am now switching
some items from ONCE to TWICE.

-----------------------------------------------
CONTENTS:

SECTION I - Systems
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous

************************************************
SECTION I - Systems
************************************************
S1). Atari 2600 Bundle 1  $12-Ray*TWICE*
      (4 switch, ultra-clean, works/tested,
       includes Combat & Star Raiders carts w/
       Star Raiders overlay, multi-keypad & 2
       working joysticks)

S2). Odyssey II $22-Ray*ONCE*
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers, no power
       supply - uses any Sega p/s)

S3). Vectrex  -$75-C.E. Forman*ONCE*
      (works/tested, w/ 1 controller, no carts)

S4). Fairchild Channel F -$45-cougar*ONCE*
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers NO CARTS
       System II version by Zircon)

S5). NEC Turbo Duo -$80-Ryu *ONCE*
      (works/tested, needs video cables, no CD's)

S6). Atari 5200 Boxed (4-p)$30-Squirmles*ONCE*
      (works/tested, complete w/ all docs, 100%
       working controllers, switchbox, etc. & 
       Super Breakout in SEALED box)

S7). Atari 7800 Boxed System -$25-Rikard*ONCE*
      (tested, complete w/ Dig Dug, Pole 
       Position & Galaga, carts only)

S9). Intellivision -$16-Dave R*ONCE*
      (tested)

S10). Intellivision -$22-Ken*TWICE*
      (tested, w/ Intellivoice module)

S11). Nintendo NES -$9-Jon *TWICE*
      (2 controllers, Zapper, RF, no p/supply)

S12). Commodore 64 -$10-Mike*TWICE*
      (tested, w/ power supply)

S13). Nintendo NES -$20-Mr. Dynamo*TWICE*
      (tested, 2 controllers, RF, p/supply & gun)

S14). Sega Saturn -$70-stevek*TWICE*
      (tested, modified for US/Jap swap, removed
       CD cover door, 2 controllers)

S15). 3DO Testing Station -$85-Rikard *TWICE*
      (tested, dev system,  w/ testing joypad,
       has toggle switch for test purposes)

S16). Atari 400 -$9-Hugues *once*
      (tested, no power supply)

S17). Atari 1200XL -$6-Rodolfo *ONCE*
      (tested, no power supply)

S18). Atari 130XE -$3-Fxites*TWICE*
      (broken keyboard (bad trace on keyboard 
       circuit), no power supply)

************************************************
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************
-->BID ON EACH CART INDIVIDUALLY!<--

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 1 
(these carts are w/ box and instructions)
C1). Cart #3 -$4-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Blackjack) 
C2). Cart #6 -$4-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Addition, Subtraction)
C3). Cart #7 -$4-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Multip, Div.)
C4). Cart #9 -$4-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Drag Strip) 
C5). Cart #12 -$4-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Baseball)
C6). Cart #15 $7-Rikard*ONCE*
     (Memory Match 1 & 2)

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 2
(these carts are WITHOUT boxes or instructions)
C7). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs*TWICE*
     (Tic-Tac-Toe, Shooting Gallery, Doodle,
      Quadra-Doodle)
C8). Cart #1 -$3-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (same as above but different label,
      larger '#1' w/ picture icons)
C9). Cart #2  -$3-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Desert Fox, Shooting Gallery)
C10). Cart #3  -$1-DisKountrs*TWICE*
      (Video Blackjack)
C11). Cart #4  -$1-DisKountrs*TWICE*
      (Spitfire)
C12). Cart #12  -$3-DisKountrs*ONCE*
      (Baseball)

*** Atari 2600
C13). Donkey Kong (Coleco)  -$1-cougar*ONCE*
C14). Frogger (Parker Brothers) -$1-cougar*ONCE*
C50). Outlaw (boxed) -$2-cougar *ONCE*
C51). Homerun (boxed) -$1-cougar *ONCE*

*** Intellivision
C40). Bomb Squad (uses Intellivoice) -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C47). Q*Bert -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C49). Burgertime -$1-Joey*TWICE*
C15). Space Battle (Mattel) -$2-Dave R*ONCE*
C16). Skiing (Mattel, in box w/manual)-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C17). Poker & Blackjack (Mattel, in box)-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C41). Space Battle-$2-Dave R*ONCE*
C42). Tennis-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C43). Astrosmash-$2-Dave R*ONCE*
C44). Black Jack-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C45). NBA Basketball-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C46). Horse Racing-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C48). NFL Football-$1-Gary*TWICE*


*** Atari 8-bit Computers
C18). Centipede (Atari)  -$2-cougar*ONCE*
C19). Touch Typing -$2-Rodolfo*ONCE*
      (Atari, cassette) 

*** Odyssey II
C20). Pick Axe Pete -$4-Jon*TWICE*
C21). Cosmic Conflict -$4-Jon*TWICE*
C22). Alien Invaders Plus -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C37). Out of This World/Helicopter Rescue-$1-Jon*TWICE*
C31). K.C. Munchkin -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C24). Showdown in 2100 AD -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C26). War of Nerves -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C27). Monkeyshines! -$3-Jon*TWICE*
C28). Quest for the Rings (Gold Label)-$3-Jon*TWICE*

C29). Invaders From Hyperspace -$1.50-Jon*TWICE*
C30). Computer Golf-.50-Ray*TWICE*
C25). Baseball!-.50-Ray*TWICE*
C32). Thunderball--$1.50-Jon*TWICE*
C33). Football-.50-Ray*TWICE*
C34). Blockout/Breakdown--$1.50-Jon*TWICE*
C35). Bowling/Basketball-.50-Ray*TWICE*
C36). Sub Chase/Armored Encounter--$1.50-Jon*TWICE*
C23). Electronic Table Soccer--$1.50-Jon*TWICE*
C38). Speedway/Spin-out/Crypto Logic-.50-Ray*TWICE*

************************************************
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************

HH1). Soccer -$3-Meatyard*TWICE*
      (Mattel, LED, tested, power switch is a 
       little touchy, but game works fine)

HH2). Jurassic Park -$1-Rikard*TWICE*
      (Tiger, LCD)

HH3). Safebuster $12-Rikard*TWICE*
      (Nintendo G&W, LCD 2-screen)

HH4). Soccer -$2-cougar*TWICE*
      (Mattel, LED, tested but no battery cover)

HH5). Cosmic Clash $2-cougar*ONCE*
      (Tomy, VFD)

HH7). Simon -$2-Ray*ONCE*
      (MB, lights, more of a tabletop really)

HH8). Tennis $2-Rikard*TWICE*
      (Tomytronics, VFD)

HH10). Galaxian -$6-Rikard*TWICE*
       (Coleco, VFD, BROKEN - circuit board
        cracked, good for parts or if you can
        work miracles with solder!)

************************************************
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous
************************************************

M1). Super Wildcard -$50-Victoria*TWICE*
     (SNES cart copier, 24megabit, parallel PC
      port built-in, no p/supply -uses 9v)

M2). Vectrex controller -$20-Sean*TWICE*
     (Works fine)

M3). 3DO control pad -$6-DisKountrs*TWICE*
     (Tested)

M7a). Atari Joysticks Set #1 -$5-Mike*ONCE*
      (2, both tested)

M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3-Ray*TWICE*
      (1 pair, tested)

M8b). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3-PatMan*TWICE*
      (1 pair, tested)

M11). Commodore 1541 -$15-Mike*ONCE*
      (Disk Drive with power cord, tested)

M12). Commodore 1571 -$12-Mike*ONCE*
      (Disk Drive with power cord, untested)

M14). SNES Developer Cards (2) -$17-Rikard*ONCE*
      (5 EPROM sockets on each card, unknown 
       games, one has 2 EPROMS, the other 1. 
       these are basically like carts)

************************************************
TERMS AND AGREEMENTS FOR ALL BIDDERS
************************************************

1). ALL BIDS ARE FINAL - If you make a bid, it 
is final. Do not bid on any item you don't 
intend to buy! 

2). PAYMENT FOR WINNING BIDS - Will be in $US
MONEY ORDERS or CASHIERS CHECK only. No checks
and I don't advise you send cash in the mail. In
the event of a winning bid, you send me the MO
and your address and I will send you the
item(s). Make MO/CC's out to:  Bill Stanton
                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~
3). TRADES - If you have something you want to
offer instead of cash, try me. Just don't refuse
to pay in cash if I refuse your trade offer. Any
item in the auction is subject to private trade,
but I will notify any bidders on that item in
the event someone offers me a lucrative trade.

4). SHIPPING COSTS - I make no guarantee that my
estimate of shipping costs are totally accurate.
I simply make an estimate.

5). BIDDING CRITERIA - Please follow the min.
bid increments as follows:

  $0-9   = $1
  $10-19 = $2
  $20-up = $5 

6). WINNING BIDS - Do send in your payment
within 5 days of my emailing you the final 
amount (shipping plus items). I am *still* 
waiting for some people to pay me from my last
auction (which ended in November)!

7). REMOVAL - Since some of these items aren't
mine, we reserve the right to remove any items
from the auction at any time.

8). AUCTION DURATION - We're going to run this
auction from 12/21/96 until 12/27/96 when it
will enter the going phase. This phase will go
ONCE, TWICE, GONE. Daily. Hopefully, it won't
drag out too long. The auction will formally 
conclude when all items either have winning bids 
or have been removed.

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From: Glenn Saunders <krishna@primenet.com>
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Subject: Re: Vectrex out of patent?
Date: 28 Dec 1996 21:18:01 -0700
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The mortal Nick S Bensema wrote:
: wow.  Of course I don't think a Vectrex will really sell enough to justify
: production costs, unless it were sold maybe at Spencer's with more than
: one built-in game.  I saw Spencer's because that's where you go to buy

There is a way to make a profit in the 1990s selling Vec hardware, but I'd
be giving up my secret by telling you how.  Suffice to say, it wouldn't be
a stock Vectrex setup.


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Subject: wanting to buy one!
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Anyone ever post here? Hey, I'm looking for a vectrex to buy, must be in
working order. Please email me if you've got one!

Jack
-- 
Here's Looking up your old address....
                                    - Col. Henry Blake

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Ray Ghanbari (ray@mayo.edu) wrote:

: Folks, anyone have any idea how many Vectrexes (Vectri?) were made?  The  
: two I have have serial numbers in the 48,000s and 138,000s.  Assuming the  
: serial numbers are sequential, that's quite a run for an expensive home  
: machine that came out during the video game crash...

Mine's 0135719
--
Michael Packard
Lord Generic Productions                           
lgp@exo.com http://exo.com/~lgp                      



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         **BILL'S SECOND AUCTION!!!**
             12/21/96 - 12/27/96
-----------------------------------------------
(2600-5200-7800-Vectrex-INTV-NES-Magnavox-C=64-
Turbo Duo-Odyssey-Fairchild-GameBoy-Saturn-3DO)

---See Terms & Agreements at end of document---
-----------------------------------------------
             NEWS ITEM BULLETINS

12/21: I made my first mistake! I included the
Fairchild carts in with the system AND an 
assortment (C7-C12). I've deleted the carts
from the system. Any bids on that system thus
far may be withdrawn.

12/21: Added a bunch of Atari and Commodore 
stuff to (S)ystems and (M)isc. categories. Plus
some other odd stuff... ;)

12/22: Notice - Channel F cart assortments are
not individual items... Please enter bids on 
the carts individually! I only grouped them to
differentiate between the boxed and unboxed 
carts.

12/22: REMINDER - Check the min. bid increments
at the bottom of the auction! People have been
bidding $1 increments on items over $10 and I
won't be accepting them after this update. Thx!

12/23: Added a Galaxian VFD to (H)andhelds, and
two SNES developer's EPROM cards.

12/24: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVE! Added some notes to
various items like the Super Wildcard.

12/25: NOTICE OF ITEM REMOVAL: As of tomorrow
(12/26) I will be REMOVING unbidded items to
streamline the auction document. If you want
any of these items and are waiting before you
bid, please do so now.

12/26: I HAVE moved all unbidded items to the 
bottom of each category listing or brand. As of
tomorrow, if they remain unbidded, they'll be 
removed.

12/26: AUCTION will be going into the GOING
phase tomorrow. All entered bids will be listed
as ONCE on 12/27. Bids that remain on the 28th 
will become TWICE and then SOLD the next day if
no other valid bids are entered on a given item.
Since I am not getting laid off this time, I am
not going to be accepting conditional bids as I
did with the last auction. There's no time
limit, I will allow bidding wars to continue
for a while. Besides, there was a bit of
confusion last time as to how conditional bids
worked...

12/27: SECOND UPDATE OF THE DAY - I will now
be sending out two updates per day, until the 
end of the auction. Unfortunately, I think I 
may have messed up a couple of the items bids.
If you see an item that you made a bid on and
you don't see it (and there has been no new bid
on that item), please let me know and accept
my apologies. The holiday and all has been very
competitive for my brain processing time! :)

12/27-28: FIRST GOING UPDATE! As of this update,
I have deleted items which were not yet bidded
on and tried to fix any bidding errors I made.
Please note that if a system or cart doesn't
list something (like power supply, box, etc.)
DO NOT EXPECT IT TO COME WITH IT! I have tried
to give detailed explanations on items but if 
you have a question, ASK! I will reply within 
hours with info. A brief word on updates and
"ONCE, TWICE" stuff. ALL ITEMS WILL GO FROM 
ONCE TO TWICE TOMORROW. NOT on this update!
Items will not go from ONCE to TWICE to GONE
between a morning and evening update. Rather, 
I am doing on a day to day basis. Ex: Item S1).
went to *ONCE* this morning. It got no bids 
today. It will be still listed as *ONCE* on
this update and will not be changed to *TWICE*
until tomorrow (assuming it doesn't get a new 
bid by morning, in which case it will remain
*ONCE*). --Any questions? Email me! BTW, I
removed a second Donkey Kong which was a dupe
of an existing cart.

12/28: SECOND GOING UPDATE: I am now switching
some items from ONCE to TWICE.

12/29: Since I was unable to send out TWO
updates today, I am not going to upgrade the
GOING status of items until tomorrow morning to
give people a chance to bid on currently TWICE
items they wouldn't otherwise have seen today.
This essentially will delay the auction by one
day, I hope it doesn't inconvenience anyone! :)
Also, item M7b). Atari Joysticks #2 have been
re-added because I lost a bid on them before.


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CONTENTS:

SECTION I - Systems
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous

************************************************
SECTION I - Systems
************************************************
S1). Atari 2600 Bundle 1  $12-Ray*TWICE*
      (4 switch, ultra-clean, works/tested,
       includes Combat & Star Raiders carts w/
       Star Raiders overlay, multi-keypad & 2
       working joysticks)

S2). Odyssey II $22-Ray*ONCE*
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers, no power
       supply - uses any Sega p/s)

S3). Vectrex  -$75-C.E. Forman*ONCE*
      (works/tested, w/ 1 controller, no carts)

S4). Fairchild Channel F -$45-cougar*ONCE*
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers NO CARTS
       System II version by Zircon)

S5). NEC Turbo Duo -$80-Ryu *ONCE*
      (works/tested, needs video cables, no CD's)

S6). Atari 5200 Boxed (4-p)$30-Squirmles*ONCE*
      (works/tested, complete w/ all docs, 100%
       working controllers, switchbox, etc. & 
       Super Breakout in SEALED box)

S7). Atari 7800 Boxed System -$25-Rikard*ONCE*
      (tested, complete w/ Dig Dug, Pole 
       Position & Galaga, carts only)

S9). Intellivision -$16-Dave R*ONCE*
      (tested)

S10). Intellivision -$22-Ken*TWICE*
      (tested, w/ Intellivoice module)

S11). Nintendo NES -$14-Phoenix *once*
      (2 controllers, Zapper, RF, no p/supply)

S12). Commodore 64 -$10-Mike*TWICE*
      (tested, w/ power supply)

S13). Nintendo NES -$20-Mr. Dynamo*TWICE*
      (tested, 2 controllers, RF, p/supply & gun)

S14). Sega Saturn -$70-stevek*TWICE*
      (tested, modified for US/Jap swap, removed
       CD cover door, 2 controllers)

S15). 3DO Testing Station -$85-Rikard *TWICE*
      (tested, dev system,  w/ testing joypad,
       has toggle switch for test purposes)

S16). Atari 400 -$9-Hugues *once*
      (tested, no power supply)

S17). Atari 1200XL -$6-Rodolfo *ONCE*
      (tested, no power supply)

S18). Atari 130XE -$3-James*once*
      (broken keyboard (bad trace on keyboard 
       circuit), no power supply)

************************************************
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************
-->BID ON EACH CART INDIVIDUALLY!<--

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 1 
(these carts are w/ box and instructions)
C1). Cart #3 -$4-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Blackjack) 
C2). Cart #6 -$4-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Addition, Subtraction)
C3). Cart #7 -$4-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Multip, Div.)
C4). Cart #9 -$4-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Drag Strip) 
C5). Cart #12 -$4-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Baseball)
C6). Cart #15 $7-Rikard*ONCE*
     (Memory Match 1 & 2)

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 2
(these carts are WITHOUT boxes or instructions)
C7). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs*TWICE*
     (Tic-Tac-Toe, Shooting Gallery, Doodle,
      Quadra-Doodle)
C8). Cart #1 -$3-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (same as above but different label,
      larger '#1' w/ picture icons)
C9). Cart #2  -$3-DisKountrs*ONCE*
     (Desert Fox, Shooting Gallery)
C10). Cart #3  -$1-DisKountrs*TWICE*
      (Video Blackjack)
C11). Cart #4  -$1-DisKountrs*TWICE*
      (Spitfire)
C12). Cart #12  -$3-DisKountrs*ONCE*
      (Baseball)

*** Atari 2600
C13). Donkey Kong (Coleco)  -$1-cougar*ONCE*
C14). Frogger (Parker Brothers) -$1-cougar*ONCE*
C50). Outlaw (boxed) -$2-cougar *ONCE*
C51). Homerun (boxed) -$1-cougar *ONCE*

*** Intellivision
C40). Bomb Squad (uses Intellivoice) -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C47). Q*Bert -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C49). Burgertime -$1-Joey*TWICE*
C15). Space Battle (Mattel) -$2-Dave R*ONCE*
C16). Skiing (Mattel, in box w/manual)-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C17). Poker & Blackjack (Mattel, in box)-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C41). Space Battle-$2-Dave R*ONCE*
C42). Tennis-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C43). Astrosmash-$2-Dave R*ONCE*
C44). Black Jack-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C45). NBA Basketball-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C46). Horse Racing-$1-Gary*TWICE*
C48). NFL Football-$1-Gary*TWICE*


*** Atari 8-bit Computers
C18). Centipede (Atari)  -$2-cougar*ONCE*
C19). Touch Typing -$2-Rodolfo*ONCE*
      (Atari, cassette) 

*** Odyssey II
C20). Pick Axe Pete -$4-Jon*TWICE*
C21). Cosmic Conflict -$4-Jon*TWICE*
C22). Alien Invaders Plus -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C37). Out of This World/Helicopter Rescue-$1-Jon*TWICE*
C31). K.C. Munchkin -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C24). Showdown in 2100 AD -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C26). War of Nerves -$1-Jon*TWICE*
C27). Monkeyshines! -$3-Jon*TWICE*
C28). Quest for the Rings (Gold Label)-$3-Jon*TWICE*

C29). Invaders From Hyperspace -$1.50-Jon*TWICE*
C30). Computer Golf-.50-Ray*TWICE*
C25). Baseball!-.50-Ray*TWICE*
C32). Thunderball--$1.50-Jon*TWICE*
C33). Football-.50-Ray*TWICE*
C34). Blockout/Breakdown--$1.50-Jon*TWICE*
C35). Bowling/Basketball-.50-Ray*TWICE*
C36). Sub Chase/Armored Encounter--$1.50-Jon*TWICE*
C23). Electronic Table Soccer--$1.50-Jon*TWICE*
C38). Speedway/Spin-out/Crypto Logic-.50-Ray*TWICE*

************************************************
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************

HH1). Soccer -$3-Meatyard*TWICE*
      (Mattel, LED, tested, power switch is a 
       little touchy, but game works fine)

HH2). Jurassic Park -$1-Rikard*TWICE*
      (Tiger, LCD)

HH3). Safebuster $15-Jeffrey*once*
      (Nintendo G&W, LCD 2-screen)

HH4). Soccer -$2-cougar*TWICE*
      (Mattel, LED, tested but no battery cover)

HH5). Cosmic Clash $7-Rikard*once*
      (Tomy, VFD)

HH7). Simon -$5-Thomas *once*
      (MB, lights, more of a tabletop really)

HH8). Tennis $2-Rikard*TWICE*
      (Tomytronics, VFD)

HH10). Galaxian -$7-Thomas *once*
       (Coleco, VFD, BROKEN - circuit board
        cracked, good for parts or if you can
        work miracles with solder!)

************************************************
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous
************************************************

M1). Super Wildcard -$50-Victoria*TWICE*
     (SNES cart copier, 24megabit, parallel PC
      port built-in, no p/supply -uses 9v)

M2). Vectrex controller -$20-Sean*TWICE*
     (Works fine)

M3). 3DO control pad -$6-DisKountrs*TWICE*
     (Tested)

M7a). Atari Joysticks Set #1 -$5-Mike*ONCE*
      (2, both tested)

M7b). Atari Joysticks Set #2 -$3-PatMan*once*
      (2, both tested)

M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3-Ray*TWICE*
      (1 pair, tested)

M8b). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3-PatMan*TWICE*
      (1 pair, tested)

M11). Commodore 1541 -$15-Mike*ONCE*
      (Disk Drive with power cord, tested)

M12). Commodore 1571 -$12-Mike*ONCE*
      (Disk Drive with power cord, untested)

M14). SNES Developer Cards (2) -$17-Rikard*ONCE*
      (5 EPROM sockets on each card, unknown 
       games, one has 2 EPROMS, the other 1. 
       these are basically like carts)

************************************************
TERMS AND AGREEMENTS FOR ALL BIDDERS
************************************************

1). ALL BIDS ARE FINAL - If you make a bid, it 
is final. Do not bid on any item you don't 
intend to buy! 

2). PAYMENT FOR WINNING BIDS - Will be in $US
MONEY ORDERS or CASHIERS CHECK only. No checks
and I don't advise you send cash in the mail. In
the event of a winning bid, you send me the MO
and your address and I will send you the
item(s). Make MO/CC's out to:  Bill Stanton
                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~
3). TRADES - If you have something you want to
offer instead of cash, try me. Just don't refuse
to pay in cash if I refuse your trade offer. Any
item in the auction is subject to private trade,
but I will notify any bidders on that item in
the event someone offers me a lucrative trade.

4). SHIPPING COSTS - I make no guarantee that my
estimate of shipping costs are totally accurate.
I simply make an estimate.

5). BIDDING CRITERIA - Please follow the min.
bid increments as follows:

  $0-9   = $1
  $10-19 = $2
  $20-up = $5 

6). WINNING BIDS - Do send in your payment
within 5 days of my emailing you the final 
amount (shipping plus items). I am *still* 
waiting for some people to pay me from my last
auction (which ended in November)!

7). REMOVAL - Since some of these items aren't
mine, we reserve the right to remove any items
from the auction at any time.

8). AUCTION DURATION - We're going to run this
auction from 12/21/96 until 12/27/96 when it
will enter the going phase. This phase will go
ONCE, TWICE, GONE. Daily. Hopefully, it won't
drag out too long. The auction will formally 
conclude when all items either have winning bids 
or have been removed.

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         **BILL'S SECOND AUCTION!!!**
             12/21/96 - 12/27/96
-----------------------------------------------
(2600-5200-7800-Vectrex-INTV-NES-Magnavox-C=64-
Turbo Duo-Odyssey-Fairchild-GameBoy-Saturn-3DO)

---See Terms & Agreements at end of document---
-----------------------------------------------
             NEWS ITEM BULLETINS

12/21: I made my first mistake! I included the
Fairchild carts in with the system AND an 
assortment (C7-C12). I've deleted the carts
from the system. Any bids on that system thus
far may be withdrawn.

12/21: Added a bunch of Atari and Commodore 
stuff to (S)ystems and (M)isc. categories. Plus
some other odd stuff... ;)

12/22: Notice - Channel F cart assortments are
not individual items... Please enter bids on 
the carts individually! I only grouped them to
differentiate between the boxed and unboxed 
carts.

12/22: REMINDER - Check the min. bid increments
at the bottom of the auction! People have been
bidding $1 increments on items over $10 and I
won't be accepting them after this update. Thx!

12/23: Added a Galaxian VFD to (H)andhelds, and
two SNES developer's EPROM cards.

12/24: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVE! Added some notes to
various items like the Super Wildcard.

12/25: NOTICE OF ITEM REMOVAL: As of tomorrow
(12/26) I will be REMOVING unbidded items to
streamline the auction document. If you want
any of these items and are waiting before you
bid, please do so now.

12/26: I HAVE moved all unbidded items to the 
bottom of each category listing or brand. As of
tomorrow, if they remain unbidded, they'll be 
removed.

12/26: AUCTION will be going into the GOING
phase tomorrow. All entered bids will be listed
as ONCE on 12/27. Bids that remain on the 28th 
will become TWICE and then SOLD the next day if
no other valid bids are entered on a given item.
Since I am not getting laid off this time, I am
not going to be accepting conditional bids as I
did with the last auction. There's no time
limit, I will allow bidding wars to continue
for a while. Besides, there was a bit of
confusion last time as to how conditional bids
worked...

12/27: SECOND UPDATE OF THE DAY - I will now
be sending out two updates per day, until the 
end of the auction. Unfortunately, I think I 
may have messed up a couple of the items bids.
If you see an item that you made a bid on and
you don't see it (and there has been no new bid
on that item), please let me know and accept
my apologies. The holiday and all has been very
competitive for my brain processing time! :)

12/27-28: FIRST GOING UPDATE! As of this update,
I have deleted items which were not yet bidded
on and tried to fix any bidding errors I made.
Please note that if a system or cart doesn't
list something (like power supply, box, etc.)
DO NOT EXPECT IT TO COME WITH IT! I have tried
to give detailed explanations on items but if 
you have a question, ASK! I will reply within 
hours with info. A brief word on updates and
"ONCE, TWICE" stuff. ALL ITEMS WILL GO FROM 
ONCE TO TWICE TOMORROW. NOT on this update!
Items will not go from ONCE to TWICE to GONE
between a morning and evening update. Rather, 
I am doing on a day to day basis. Ex: Item S1).
went to *ONCE* this morning. It got no bids 
today. It will be still listed as *ONCE* on
this update and will not be changed to *TWICE*
until tomorrow (assuming it doesn't get a new 
bid by morning, in which case it will remain
*ONCE*). --Any questions? Email me! BTW, I
removed a second Donkey Kong which was a dupe
of an existing cart.

12/28: SECOND GOING UPDATE: I am now switching
some items from ONCE to TWICE.

12/29: Since I was unable to send out TWO
updates today, I am not going to upgrade the
GOING status of items until tomorrow morning to
give people a chance to bid on currently TWICE
items they wouldn't otherwise have seen today.
This essentially will delay the auction by one
day, I hope it doesn't inconvenience anyone! :)
Also, item M7b). Atari Joysticks #2 have been
re-added because I lost a bid on them before.

12/30: OK, some items are being listed as SOLD.
Congrats to all buyers!  Also, the Tomy Cosmic
Clash HH is being re-listed as LIGHTS, not VFD.
My mistake... Bid retractions allowed on that
item only!!


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CONTENTS:

SECTION I - Systems
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous

************************************************
SECTION I - Systems
************************************************
S1). Atari 2600 Bundle 1  $12-Ray*SOLD!!*
      (4 switch, ultra-clean, works/tested,
       includes Combat & Star Raiders carts w/
       Star Raiders overlay, multi-keypad & 2
       working joysticks)

S2). Odyssey II $22-Ray*TWICE*
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers, no power
       supply - uses any Sega p/s)

S3). Vectrex  -$75-C.E. Forman*TWICE*
      (works/tested, w/ 1 controller, no carts)

S4). Fairchild Channel F -$45-cougar*TWICE*
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers NO CARTS
       System II version by Zircon)

S5). NEC Turbo Duo -$80-Ryu *TWICE*
      (works/tested, needs video cables, no CD's)

S6). Atari 5200 Boxed (4-p)$35-Jacob*once*
      (works/tested, complete w/ all docs, 100%
       working controllers, switchbox, etc. & 
       Super Breakout in SEALED box)

S7). Atari 7800 Boxed System -$30-Ray*once*
      (tested, complete w/ Dig Dug, Pole 
       Position & Galaga, carts only)

S9). Intellivision -$16-Dave R*TWICE*
      (tested)

S10). Intellivision -$22-Ken*SOLD!!*
      (tested, w/ Intellivoice module)

S11). Nintendo NES -$14-Phoenix *once*
      (2 controllers, Zapper, RF, no p/supply)

S12). Commodore 64 -$10-Mike*SOLD!!*
      (tested, w/ power supply)

S13). Nintendo NES -$20-Mr. Dynamo*SOLD!!*
      (tested, 2 controllers, RF, p/supply & gun)

S14). Sega Saturn -$80-Josh*once*
      (tested, modified for US/Jap swap, removed
       CD cover door, 2 controllers)

S15). 3DO Testing Station -$85-Rikard *TWICE*
      (tested, dev system,  w/ testing joypad,
       has toggle switch for test purposes)

S16). Atari 400 -$9-Hugues *once*
      (tested, no power supply)

S17). Atari 1200XL -$6-Rodolfo *TWICE*
      (tested, no power supply)

S18). Atari 130XE -$3-James*once*
      (broken keyboard (bad trace on keyboard 
       circuit), no power supply)

************************************************
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************
-->BID ON EACH CART INDIVIDUALLY!<--

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 1 
(these carts are w/ box and instructions)
C1). Cart #3 -$4-DisKountrs*TWICE*
     (Blackjack) 
C2). Cart #6 -$4-DisKountrs*TWICE*
     (Addition, Subtraction)
C3). Cart #7 -$4-DisKountrs*TWICE*
     (Multip, Div.)
C4). Cart #9 -$4-DisKountrs*TWICE*
     (Drag Strip) 
C5). Cart #12 -$4-DisKountrs*TWICE*
     (Baseball)
C6). Cart #15 $7-Rikard*TWICE*
     (Memory Match 1 & 2)

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 2
(these carts are WITHOUT boxes or instructions)
C7). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
     (Tic-Tac-Toe, Shooting Gallery, Doodle,
      Quadra-Doodle)
C8). Cart #1 -$3-DisKountrs*TWICE*
     (same as above but different label,
      larger '#1' w/ picture icons)
C9). Cart #2  -$3-DisKountrs*TWICE*
     (Desert Fox, Shooting Gallery)
C10). Cart #3  -$1-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
      (Video Blackjack)
C11). Cart #4  -$1-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
      (Spitfire)
C12). Cart #12  -$3-DisKountrs*TWICE*
      (Baseball)

*** Atari 2600
C13). Donkey Kong (Coleco)  -$1-cougar*TWICE*
C14). Frogger (Parker Brothers) -$2-Ray*TWICE*
C50). Outlaw (boxed) -$2-cougar *TWICE*
C51). Homerun (boxed) -$1-cougar *TWICE*

*** Intellivision
C40). Bomb Squad (uses Intellivoice) -$1-Jon*SOLD!!*
C47). Q*Bert -$2-Rhino*once*
C49). Burgertime -$2-Rhino*once*
C15). Space Battle (Mattel) -$2-Dave R*TWICE*
C16). Skiing (Mattel, in box w/manual)-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C17). Poker & Blackjack (Mattel, in box)-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C41). Space Battle-$2-Dave R*TWICE*
C42). Tennis-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C43). Astrosmash-$2-Dave R*TWICE*
C44). Black Jack-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C45). NBA Basketball-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C46). Horse Racing-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C48). NFL Football-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*


*** Atari 8-bit Computers
C18). Centipede (Atari)  -$2-cougar*TWICE*
C19). Touch Typing -$2-Rodolfo*TWICE*
      (Atari, cassette) 

*** Odyssey II
C20). Pick Axe Pete -$4-Jon*SOLD!!*
C21). Cosmic Conflict -$4-Jon*SOLD!!*
C22). Alien Invaders Plus -$1-Jon*SOLD!!*
C37). Out of This World/Helicopter Rescue-$1-Jon*SOLD!!*
C31). K.C. Munchkin -$1-Jon*SOLD!!*
C24). Showdown in 2100 AD -$3-Ray*once*
C26). War of Nerves -$1-Jon*SOLD!!*
C27). Monkeyshines! -$3-Jon*SOLD!!*
C28). Quest for the Rings (Gold Label)-$3-Jon*SOLD!!*

C29). Invaders From Hyperspace -$1.50-Jon*SOLD!!*
C30). Computer Golf-.50-Ray*SOLD!!*
C25). Baseball!-.50-Ray*SOLD!!*
C32). Thunderball--$1.50-Jon*SOLD!!*
C33). Football-.50-Ray*SOLD!!*
C34). Blockout/Breakdown--$1.50-Jon*SOLD!!*
C35). Bowling/Basketball-.50-Ray*SOLD!!*
C36). Sub Chase/Armored Encounter--$1.50-Jon*SOLD!!*
C23). Electronic Table Soccer--$1.50-Jon*SOLD!!*
C38). Speedway/Spin-out/Crypto Logic-.50-Ray*SOLD!!*

************************************************
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************

HH1). Soccer -$3-Meatyard*SOLD!!*
      (Mattel, LED, tested, power switch is a 
       little touchy, but game works fine)

HH2). Jurassic Park -$1-Rikard*SOLD!!*
      (Tiger, LCD)

HH3). Safebuster $15-Jeffrey*once*
      (Nintendo G&W, LCD 2-screen)

HH4). Soccer -$2-cougar*SOLD!!*
      (Mattel, LED, tested but no battery cover)

HH5). Cosmic Clash $7-Rikard*once*
      (Tomy, Lights)

HH7). Simon -$8-Ray *once*
      (MB, lights, more of a tabletop really)

HH8). Tennis $2-Rikard*SOLD!!*
      (Tomytronics, VFD)

HH10). Galaxian -$7-Thomas *once*
       (Coleco, VFD, BROKEN - circuit board
        cracked, good for parts or if you can
        work miracles with solder!)

************************************************
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous
************************************************

M1). Super Wildcard -$50-Victoria*SOLD!!*
     (SNES cart copier, 24megabit, parallel PC
      port built-in, no p/supply -uses 9v)

M2). Vectrex controller -$20-Sean*SOLD!!*
     (Works fine)

M3). 3DO control pad -$6-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
     (Tested)

M7a). Atari Joysticks Set #1 -$5-Mike*TWICE*
      (2, both tested)

M7b). Atari Joysticks Set #2 -$3-PatMan*once*
      (2, both tested)

M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3-Ray*SOLD!!*
      (1 pair, tested)

M8b). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3-PatMan*SOLD!!*
      (1 pair, tested)

M11). Commodore 1541 -$15-Mike*TWICE*
      (Disk Drive with power cord, tested)

M12). Commodore 1571 -$12-Mike*TWICE*
      (Disk Drive with power cord, untested)

M14). SNES Developer Cards (2) -$19-Victoria*once*
      (5 EPROM sockets on each card, unknown 
       games, one has 2 EPROMS, the other 1. 
       these are basically like carts)

************************************************
TERMS AND AGREEMENTS FOR ALL BIDDERS
************************************************

1). ALL BIDS ARE FINAL - If you make a bid, it 
is final. Do not bid on any item you don't 
intend to buy! 

2). PAYMENT FOR WINNING BIDS - Will be in $US
MONEY ORDERS or CASHIERS CHECK only. No checks
and I don't advise you send cash in the mail. In
the event of a winning bid, you send me the MO
and your address and I will send you the
item(s). Make MO/CC's out to:  Bill Stanton
                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~
3). TRADES - If you have something you want to
offer instead of cash, try me. Just don't refuse
to pay in cash if I refuse your trade offer. Any
item in the auction is subject to private trade,
but I will notify any bidders on that item in
the event someone offers me a lucrative trade.

4). SHIPPING COSTS - I make no guarantee that my
estimate of shipping costs are totally accurate.
I simply make an estimate.

5). BIDDING CRITERIA - Please follow the min.
bid increments as follows:

  $0-9   = $1
  $10-19 = $2
  $20-up = $5 

6). WINNING BIDS - Do send in your payment
within 5 days of my emailing you the final 
amount (shipping plus items). I am *still* 
waiting for some people to pay me from my last
auction (which ended in November)!

7). REMOVAL - Since some of these items aren't
mine, we reserve the right to remove any items
from the auction at any time.

8). AUCTION DURATION - We're going to run this
auction from 12/21/96 until 12/27/96 when it
will enter the going phase. This phase will go
ONCE, TWICE, GONE. Daily. Hopefully, it won't
drag out too long. The auction will formally 
conclude when all items either have winning bids 
or have been removed.

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From: btomlin@crl.com (Bruce Tomlin)
Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex
Subject: Re: Vectrex out of patent?
Date: 30 Dec 1996 11:15:23 -0800
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Wayne Morellini (waynem1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au) wrote in rec.games.vectrex:
>Thats why I asked if the code had only certain entry points that can be
>used, meaning that the same entry pionts could be used with rewritten exec
>code which would not violate copyright in the states.

I've analyzed disassemblies of quite a few Vectrex carts and found that 
while usually things were kept to a few entry points, often calls would 
be made a few bytes into a routine, or even into the Minestorm part of 
the ROM.  There was no such thing as the jump table in the ColecoVision 
ROM (which still doesn't eliminate compatibility problems with 
re-assembled ROMs!)

>Once these patents do pass out the hole patented design is up for grabs. 
>The patent system only lets inventors exploite their ideas and make money
>for a limited time, after thios time the invention is Public Domain.

That still has no effect on the copyrighted stuff.  It's still copyrighted.

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From: mac@cis.ksu.edu (Myron A. Calhoun)
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Subject: Re: Serial Numbers?
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lgp@server.snni.com (Michael Packard) writes:
<Ray Ghanbari (ray@mayo.edu) wrote:
<< Folks, anyone have any idea how many Vectrexes (Vectri?) were made?  The  
<< two I have have serial numbers in the 48,000s and 138,000s.  Assuming ...

<Mine's 0135719

I've got two:
# 0025116  (bought September, 1984, for $182.65, & heavily-used)
# 0134652  (UNused--acquired by GCE mistake as they "expired" !-)

--Myron.
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From: C Shamis <cshamis@Ziggy.erinet.com>
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Who's taken over the job of the faq,  the newest one on ftp.csus.edu doesn't
mention the "working" vectrex emulator.

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Subject: Tech Question, slanted text how to fix?
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Anyone know how to fix slanted text?  The text that says Player 1, is always
straight up-and down.  But most other text is slanted pretty bad.

I always rememberd there being a slight tilt to the letters, but I think its
gotten worse recently.

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         **BILL'S SECOND AUCTION!!!**
             12/21/96 - 12/27/96
-----------------------------------------------
(2600-5200-7800-Vectrex-INTV-NES-Magnavox-C=64-
Turbo Duo-Odyssey-Fairchild-GameBoy-Saturn-3DO)

---See Terms & Agreements at end of document---
-----------------------------------------------
             NEWS ITEM BULLETINS

12/21: I made my first mistake! I included the
Fairchild carts in with the system AND an 
assortment (C7-C12). I've deleted the carts
from the system. Any bids on that system thus
far may be withdrawn.

12/21: Added a bunch of Atari and Commodore 
stuff to (S)ystems and (M)isc. categories. Plus
some other odd stuff... ;)

12/22: Notice - Channel F cart assortments are
not individual items... Please enter bids on 
the carts individually! I only grouped them to
differentiate between the boxed and unboxed 
carts.

12/22: REMINDER - Check the min. bid increments
at the bottom of the auction! People have been
bidding $1 increments on items over $10 and I
won't be accepting them after this update. Thx!

12/23: Added a Galaxian VFD to (H)andhelds, and
two SNES developer's EPROM cards.

12/24: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVE! Added some notes to
various items like the Super Wildcard.

12/25: NOTICE OF ITEM REMOVAL: As of tomorrow
(12/26) I will be REMOVING unbidded items to
streamline the auction document. If you want
any of these items and are waiting before you
bid, please do so now.

12/26: I HAVE moved all unbidded items to the 
bottom of each category listing or brand. As of
tomorrow, if they remain unbidded, they'll be 
removed.

12/26: AUCTION will be going into the GOING
phase tomorrow. All entered bids will be listed
as ONCE on 12/27. Bids that remain on the 28th 
will become TWICE and then SOLD the next day if
no other valid bids are entered on a given item.
Since I am not getting laid off this time, I am
not going to be accepting conditional bids as I
did with the last auction. There's no time
limit, I will allow bidding wars to continue
for a while. Besides, there was a bit of
confusion last time as to how conditional bids
worked...

12/27: SECOND UPDATE OF THE DAY - I will now
be sending out two updates per day, until the 
end of the auction. Unfortunately, I think I 
may have messed up a couple of the items bids.
If you see an item that you made a bid on and
you don't see it (and there has been no new bid
on that item), please let me know and accept
my apologies. The holiday and all has been very
competitive for my brain processing time! :)

12/27-28: FIRST GOING UPDATE! As of this update,
I have deleted items which were not yet bidded
on and tried to fix any bidding errors I made.
Please note that if a system or cart doesn't
list something (like power supply, box, etc.)
DO NOT EXPECT IT TO COME WITH IT! I have tried
to give detailed explanations on items but if 
you have a question, ASK! I will reply within 
hours with info. A brief word on updates and
"ONCE, TWICE" stuff. ALL ITEMS WILL GO FROM 
ONCE TO TWICE TOMORROW. NOT on this update!
Items will not go from ONCE to TWICE to GONE
between a morning and evening update. Rather, 
I am doing on a day to day basis. Ex: Item S1).
went to *ONCE* this morning. It got no bids 
today. It will be still listed as *ONCE* on
this update and will not be changed to *TWICE*
until tomorrow (assuming it doesn't get a new 
bid by morning, in which case it will remain
*ONCE*). --Any questions? Email me! BTW, I
removed a second Donkey Kong which was a dupe
of an existing cart.

12/28: SECOND GOING UPDATE: I am now switching
some items from ONCE to TWICE.

12/29: Since I was unable to send out TWO
updates today, I am not going to upgrade the
GOING status of items until tomorrow morning to
give people a chance to bid on currently TWICE
items they wouldn't otherwise have seen today.
This essentially will delay the auction by one
day, I hope it doesn't inconvenience anyone! :)
Also, item M7b). Atari Joysticks #2 have been
re-added because I lost a bid on them before.

12/30: OK, some items are being listed as SOLD.
Congrats to all buyers!  Also, the Tomy Cosmic
Clash HH is being re-listed as LIGHTS, not VFD.
My mistake... Bid retractions allowed on that
item only!!


-----------------------------------------------
CONTENTS:

SECTION I - Systems
SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
SECTION IV - Miscellaneous

************************************************
SECTION I - Systems
************************************************
S1). Atari 2600 Bundle 1  $12-Ray*SOLD!!*
      (4 switch, ultra-clean, works/tested,
       includes Combat & Star Raiders carts w/
       Star Raiders overlay, multi-keypad & 2
       working joysticks)

S2). Odyssey II $22-Ray*SOLD!!*
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers, no power
       supply - uses any Sega p/s)

S3). Vectrex  -$80-Brian W*TWICE*
      (works/tested, w/ 1 controller, no carts)

S4). Fairchild Channel F -$45-cougar*SOLD!!*
      (works/tested, w/ 2 controllers NO CARTS
       System II version by Zircon)

S5). NEC Turbo Duo -$80-Ryu *SOLD!!*
      (works/tested, needs video cables, no CD's)

S6). Atari 5200 Boxed (4-p)$40-Joseph*TWICE*
      (works/tested, complete w/ all docs, 100%
       working controllers, switchbox, etc. & 
       Super Breakout in SEALED box)

S7). Atari 7800 Boxed System -$30-Ray*TWICE*
      (tested, complete w/ Dig Dug, Pole 
       Position & Galaga, carts only)

S9). Intellivision -$16-Dave R*SOLD!!*
      (tested)

S10). Intellivision -$22-Ken*SOLD!!*
      (tested, w/ Intellivoice module)

S11). Nintendo NES -$14-Phoenix *TWICE*
      (2 controllers, Zapper, RF, no p/supply)

S12). Commodore 64 -$10-Mike*SOLD!!*
      (tested, w/ power supply)

S13). Nintendo NES -$20-Mr. Dynamo*SOLD!!*
      (tested, 2 controllers, RF, p/supply & gun)

S14). Sega Saturn -$85-Freeman*TWICE*
      (tested, modified for US/Jap swap, removed
       CD cover door, 2 controllers)

S15). 3DO Testing Station -$85-Rikard *SOLD!!*
      (tested, dev system,  w/ testing joypad,
       has toggle switch for test purposes)

S16). Atari 400 -$9-Hugues *TWICE*
      (tested, no power supply)

S17). Atari 1200XL -$7-Hreimer *TWICE*
      (tested, no power supply)

S18). Atari 130XE -$5-James *TWICE*
      (broken keyboard (bad trace on keyboard 
       circuit), no power supply)

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SECTION II - Carts (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************
-->BID ON EACH CART INDIVIDUALLY!<--

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 1 
(these carts are w/ box and instructions)
C1). Cart #3 -$4-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
     (Blackjack) 
C2). Cart #6 -$4-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
     (Addition, Subtraction)
C3). Cart #7 -$4-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
     (Multip, Div.)
C4). Cart #9 -$4-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
     (Drag Strip) 
C5). Cart #12 -$4-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
     (Baseball)
C6). Cart #15 $7-Rikard*SOLD!!*
     (Memory Match 1 & 2)

*** Fairchild Channel F Assortment 2
(these carts are WITHOUT boxes or instructions)
C7). Cart #1 -$1-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
     (Tic-Tac-Toe, Shooting Gallery, Doodle,
      Quadra-Doodle)
C8). Cart #1 -$3-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
     (same as above but different label,
      larger '#1' w/ picture icons)
C9). Cart #2  -$3-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
     (Desert Fox, Shooting Gallery)
C10). Cart #3  -$1-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
      (Video Blackjack)
C11). Cart #4  -$1-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
      (Spitfire)
C12). Cart #12  -$3-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
      (Baseball)

*** Atari 2600
C13). Donkey Kong (Coleco)  -$1-cougar*SOLD!!*
C14). Frogger (Parker Brothers) -$2-Ray*SOLD!!*
C50). Outlaw (boxed) -$2-cougar *SOLD!!*
C51). Homerun (boxed) -$1-cougar *SOLD!!*

*** Intellivision
C40). Bomb Squad (uses Intellivoice) -$1-Jon*SOLD!!*
C47). Q*Bert -$2-Rhino*once*
C49). Burgertime -$2-Rhino*once*
C15). Space Battle (Mattel) -$2-Dave R*SOLD!!*
C16). Skiing (Mattel, in box w/manual)-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C17). Poker & Blackjack (Mattel, in box)-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C41). Space Battle-$2-Dave R*SOLD!!*
C42). Tennis-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C43). Astrosmash-$2-Dave R*SOLD!!*
C44). Black Jack-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C45). NBA Basketball-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C46). Horse Racing-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*
C48). NFL Football-$1-Gary*SOLD!!*


*** Atari 8-bit Computers
C18). Centipede (Atari)  -$2-cougar*SOLD!!*
C19). Touch Typing -$2-Rodolfo*SOLD!!*
      (Atari, cassette) 

*** Odyssey II
C20). Pick Axe Pete -$4-Jon*SOLD!!*
C21). Cosmic Conflict -$4-Jon*SOLD!!*
C22). Alien Invaders Plus -$1-Jon*SOLD!!*
C37). Out of This World/Helicopter Rescue-$1-Jon*SOLD!!*
C31). K.C. Munchkin -$1-Jon*SOLD!!*
C24). Showdown in 2100 AD -$3-Ray*once*
C26). War of Nerves -$1-Jon*SOLD!!*
C27). Monkeyshines! -$3-Jon*SOLD!!*
C28). Quest for the Rings (Gold Label)-$3-Jon*SOLD!!*

C29). Invaders From Hyperspace -$1.50-Jon*SOLD!!*
C30). Computer Golf-.50-Ray*SOLD!!*
C25). Baseball!-.50-Ray*SOLD!!*
C32). Thunderball--$1.50-Jon*SOLD!!*
C33). Football-.50-Ray*SOLD!!*
C34). Blockout/Breakdown--$1.50-Jon*SOLD!!*
C35). Bowling/Basketball-.50-Ray*SOLD!!*
C36). Sub Chase/Armored Encounter--$1.50-Jon*SOLD!!*
C23). Electronic Table Soccer--$1.50-Jon*SOLD!!*
C38). Speedway/Spin-out/Crypto Logic-.50-Ray*SOLD!!*

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SECTION III - Handhelds (NO MIN. BIDS)
************************************************

HH1). Soccer -$3-Meatyard*SOLD!!*
      (Mattel, LED, tested, power switch is a 
       little touchy, but game works fine)

HH2). Jurassic Park -$1-Rikard*SOLD!!*
      (Tiger, LCD)

HH3). Safebuster $15-Jeffrey*TWICE*
      (Nintendo G&W, LCD 2-screen)

HH4). Soccer -$2-cougar*SOLD!!*
      (Mattel, LED, tested but no battery cover)

HH5). Cosmic Clash $6 -cougar *TWICE*
      (Tomy, Lights)

HH7). Simon -$8-Ray *TWICE*
      (MB, lights, more of a tabletop really)

HH8). Tennis $2-Rikard*SOLD!!*
      (Tomytronics, VFD)

HH10). Galaxian -$8-Rikard *TWICE*
       (Coleco, VFD, BROKEN - circuit board
        cracked, good for parts or if you can
        work miracles with solder!)

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SECTION IV - Miscellaneous
************************************************

M1). Super Wildcard -$50-Victoria*SOLD!!*
     (SNES cart copier, 24megabit, parallel PC
      port built-in, no p/supply -uses 9v)

M2). Vectrex controller -$20-Sean*SOLD!!*
     (Works fine)

M3). 3DO control pad -$6-DisKountrs*SOLD!!*
     (Tested)

M7a). Atari Joysticks Set #1 -$5-Mike*SOLD!!*
      (2, both tested)

M7b). Atari Joysticks Set #2 -$3-PatMan*TWICE*
      (2, both tested)

M8a). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3-Ray*SOLD!!*
      (1 pair, tested)

M8b). Atari Paddles Set#1 -$3-PatMan*SOLD!!*
      (1 pair, tested)

M11). Commodore 1541 -$15-Mike*SOLD!!*
      (Disk Drive with power cord, tested)

M12). Commodore 1571 -$12-Mike*SOLD!!*
      (Disk Drive with power cord, untested)

M14). SNES Developer Cards (2) -$21-Rikard*TWICE*
      (5 EPROM sockets on each card, unknown 
       games, one has 2 EPROMS, the other 1. 
       these are basically like carts)

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TERMS AND AGREEMENTS FOR ALL BIDDERS
************************************************

1). ALL BIDS ARE FINAL - If you make a bid, it 
is final. Do not bid on any item you don't 
intend to buy! 

2). PAYMENT FOR WINNING BIDS - Will be in $US
MONEY ORDERS or CASHIERS CHECK only. No checks
and I don't advise you send cash in the mail. In
the event of a winning bid, you send me the MO
and your address and I will send you the
item(s). Make MO/CC's out to:  Bill Stanton
                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~
3). TRADES - If you have something you want to
offer instead of cash, try me. Just don't refuse
to pay in cash if I refuse your trade offer. Any
item in the auction is subject to private trade,
but I will notify any bidders on that item in
the event someone offers me a lucrative trade.

4). SHIPPING COSTS - I make no guarantee that my
estimate of shipping costs are totally accurate.
I simply make an estimate.

5). BIDDING CRITERIA - Please follow the min.
bid increments as follows:

  $0-9   = $1
  $10-19 = $2
  $20-up = $5 

6). WINNING BIDS - Do send in your payment
within 5 days of my emailing you the final 
amount (shipping plus items). I am *still* 
waiting for some people to pay me from my last
auction (which ended in November)!

7). REMOVAL - Since some of these items aren't
mine, we reserve the right to remove any items
from the auction at any time.

8). AUCTION DURATION - We're going to run this
auction from 12/21/96 until 12/27/96 when it
will enter the going phase. This phase will go
ONCE, TWICE, GONE. Daily. Hopefully, it won't
drag out too long. The auction will formally 
conclude when all items either have winning bids 
or have been removed.

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From: SPIKE the Percussionist <speyek@es.rice.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex
Subject: Re: Serial Numbers?
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:45:48 +0000
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Myron A. Calhoun wrote:
> 
> lgp@server.snni.com (Michael Packard) writes:
> <Ray Ghanbari (ray@mayo.edu) wrote:
> << Folks, anyone have any idea how many Vectrexes (Vectri?) were made?  The
> << two I have have serial numbers in the 48,000s and 138,000s.  Assuming ...
> 
> <Mine's 0135719
> 
> I've got two:
> # 0025116  (bought September, 1984, for $182.65, & heavily-used)
> # 0134652  (UNused--acquired by GCE mistake as they "expired" !-)
> 
> --Myron.
> --

mine are:

0087915
0096315

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SPIKE the Percussionist


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Subject: Consumer Electronics and a Simple Problem
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Damn consumer electronics !!!

I had to get that off my chest.
Not GCE, just consumer electronics in
general.

Is it just me or is it supposed to
be physically impossible to reassemble
radios, tvs, video games, etc ?

Anyway, as previously posted, my Vectrex
lost it's sound. Presuming it was a bad LM386,
I pulled the entire thing apart and replaced the
chip. I reassembled it and still no sound.

After tracing the wiring, it turned out to
be a simple problem: one of the copper contacts
inside the sound connector was corroded.




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From: Rod Booty <bwheat@pacbell.net>
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Subject: Re: Serial Numbers?
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:53:46 -0800
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Ray Ghanbari wrote:
> 
> Folks, anyone have any idea how many Vectrexes (Vectri?) were made?  The
> two I have have serial numbers in the 48,000s and 138,000s.  Assuming the
> serial numbers are sequential, that's quite a run for an expensive home
> machine that came out during the video game crash...
> 
> --
> Ray Ghanbari
> Mayo Foundation
> ray@mayo.edu

Mine is 0010067.

Rod
bwheat@pacbell.net

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