
This file contains the archives of the rec.games.vectrex NetNews group
for the month of Sep-1995 (This date range is approximate as article
dates are determined based on arrival time and not the date in the
article header).

The Vextrex archives, which include game code, technical specifications,
the rec.games.vectrex archive and a host of additional information, is
available at:

      ftp://ftp.csus.edu/pub/vectrex/

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From: rodman@cs.unca.edu (Zachary Rodman)
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Subject: Complete Vectrex System w/14 games for SALE!
Date: 1 Sep 1995 04:06:11 GMT
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Greetings. Here is a complete inventory of my Vectrex system.  EVERYTHING 
is in near perfect working condition. I will accept the best offer.  
Unless otherwise  noted, ALL games come with overlay and an instruction book.

1.  Vectrex with Owners Manual
2.  1 Extra Controller

Games:
3.  Pole Position
4.  Scramble
5.  Cosmic Chasm
6.  Spike
7.  Mine Storm
8.  Star Trek (no instructions)
9.  Clean Sweep (no overlay or instructions)
10. Space Wars
11. Fortress of Narzog
12. Armor Attack
13. Hyperchase
14. Pin Ball
15. Ripoff
16. Web Wars

Please email me at rodman@cs.unca.edu with questions and offers.   

Thanks for reading.

-Zack


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From: numsix@news.gate.net (Jack Laughlin)
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I've been able to find a Vectrex locally for a good price, but it has no
controller. Does anyone have an extra controller they'd like to sell?

Please let me know.

numsix@gate.net
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From: rbatina@infinet.com (Robert Batina)
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Subject: Re: VECTREX COMPLETE SET HAS SOLD--- FOR $1,000
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YAKKO70 (yakko70@aol.com) wrote: 
: And no matter how
: good or bad a deal this seems to be, 1000 dollars is a pretty shocking
: price for a toy 

That's your problem...  you see it only as a toy.  Not a collectable, not 
an investment, but a toy...

: In the end, all it comes down to is that someone out there felt that
: despite the value people put on vectrex systems (Baseline 70 for a system,
: 250 or so for a multicart, 

70 for a system??!   250 for a multicart??!!  Cripes!  I think not.
It would have to be like around 90-100 for a system, and only around 
75-80 for a brand spankin' new multi-cart.

: To everyone else out there, think about this; the idea of collecting
: should never be about dollars and cents, or profit and loss.  Best place
: to learn this is at Campus Comix in Carbondale Illinois, where the most
: important lesson about antiques is taught:  Whenever someone asks "What
: would you recommend?", the reply is always, "Buy whatever You like", and
: never think about the price.  If you think it's worth it, chances are,
: someone else does too.

Why does everyone have to believe what you say?  I mean, maybe for *you* 
collecting whatever isn't for profit, but for some, that is part of the 
thrill.  I collect lots of different things, some for fun, and some to 
make money.  It's called investing.  And, if Mr $1000 Vectrex Buyer can 
split up the set he bought and sell it for more money, by all means he 
should do it.  He will probably keep the parts he needs, then eventually 
sell off the rest.

: Believe me, I would have originally thought this price outrageous and
: unreasonable, and though I still feel it's outrageous, it's not nearly so
: unreasonable anymore.

You are kinda contradicting yourself, ya know...  first you say how 
people shouldn't be collecting for money and such, now you are saying it 
isn't so unreasonable?  Hmph...

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From: Justin Cooze <jcooze@plato.ucs.mun.ca>
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Subject: Vectrex Available!  Computer (stuff) Wanted!
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I have a Vectrex unit with Minestorm/Manuals/Overlay, Extra Controller, 
and 11 game cartridges in NEW condition in the boxes.

I'm not interested in selling, rather trading for computer stuff you have 
that you don't really need (i.e. Barebones system, memory, etc.).  Here's 
your chance to trade your computer "junk" that's depreciating daily for 
my Vectrex that (based on what's happening in this group) is sure to 
appreciate.

For more information, send me some e-mail.  Let me know what you are 
willing to trade and we'll take it from there.

J


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From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E Taylor IV)
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Subject: Re: VECTREX COMPLETE SET HAS SOLD--- FOR $1,000
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In article <4275f0$l4b@horus.infinet.com> rbatina@infinet.com (Robert Batina) writes:

:That's your problem...  you see it only as a toy.  Not a collectable, not 
:an investment, but a toy...

I'm not the other poster, but *do* remember that the Vectrex is a video
GAME system, e.g. a toy.  There's no law that says that toys can't be
collectible, but a collectible toy is still a toy.

:70 for a system??!   250 for a multicart??!!  Cripes!  I think not.
:It would have to be like around 90-100 for a system, and only around 
:75-80 for a brand spankin' new multi-cart.

I agree - where does someone come up with $250 for a multicart?  )If I had
the spare $70, I'd have a multicart myself, but alas)

:Why does everyone have to believe what you say?  I mean, maybe for *you* 
:collecting whatever isn't for profit, but for some, that is part of the 
:thrill.  I collect lots of different things, some for fun, and some to 
:make money.

I think a reasonable argument can be made for buying something with the
sole intent to make money isn't collecting.  If it *was* collecting, you'd
have to call every one of the junk dealers at flea markets "collectors",
and I don't see people rushing to do that.

IMO, as well, true "collecting" isn't done for profit.  "Business" is done
for profit. :)

:It's called investing.

Assuming he got it with the goal to make money later, yes.

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From: rbatina@infinet.com (Robert Batina)
Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex
Subject: Re: VECTREX COMPLETE SET HAS SOLD--- FOR $1,000
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YAKKO70 (yakko70@aol.com) wrote:
: Accounting teaches us that the book value of anything out there is valued
: only at the price acquired for.  

Heh... here's another strange statememt.  So, you are saying that if I go 
to a yard sale and purchase an atari cart for 50 cents, that it is only 
worth the 50 cents that I payed for it?  Regardless of what it is, or how 
much people are paying for it on the net?  Your theory makes no sense.

I mean, you can relate it to car auctions...  just because you pay a 
reduced price for something, it doesn't mean that it is only valued at 
that price.  That's crazy.

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From: rbatina@infinet.com (Robert Batina)
Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex
Subject: Re: VECTREX COMPLETE SET HAS SOLD--- FOR $1,000
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YAKKO70 (yakko70@aol.com) wrote:
: Accounting teaches us that the book value of anything out there is valued
: only at the price acquired for.  

Heh... here's another strange statememt.  So, you are saying that if I go 
to a yard sale and purchase an atari cart for 50 cents, that it is only 
worth the 50 cents that I payed for it?  Regardless of what it is, or how 
much people are paying for it on the net?  Your theory makes no sense.

I mean, you can relate it to car auctions...  just because you pay a 
reduced price for something, it doesn't mean that it is only valued at 
that price.  That's crazy.

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From: rbatina@infinet.com (Robert Batina)
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Subject: Re: VECTREX COMPLETE SET HAS SOLD--- FOR $1,000
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Charles E Taylor IV (charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu) wrote:
: :That's your problem...  you see it only as a toy.  Not a collectable, not 
: :an investment, but a toy...

: I'm not the other poster, but *do* remember that the Vectrex is a video
: GAME system, e.g. a toy.  There's no law that says that toys can't be
: collectible, but a collectible toy is still a toy.
--------
No kidding...  that's why I said he sees it *ONLY* as a toy.  I never 
said it wasn't, but I *am* saying that it is MORE than just a toy.
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From: Gaymond Lee <leeg@rohan.sdsu.edu>
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Subject: FS: Vectrex and Carts (need cash)
Date: 1 Sep 1995 07:13:44 GMT
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Hi,
I have the following games for sale. All games have been tested and 
are guaranteed to work. I will test again before I send out the cart. 
I bought this Vectrex and carts on this newsgroup about 3 months 
ago and need the cash for school/rent. I am not really interested 
in any trades since I need the $$$$

Rules:

1)  The prices do not include shipping which will average $1.50 for
the first cart and .50 for each additional cart up to $3. Shipping
for the Vectrex will probably run $15-20

2) I need to receive a check or money order from you before I send out 
any carts. 

3) I will hold an item for 1 week. If payment or further communication is
not received by this time, I will sell it to the next person.

4) Please let me know if you wish to cancel your order, no hard feelings
this is just a hobby.

5) Feel free to make an offer for everything. I would rather sell everything
at one time.


 Item	Cart	Overlay 	Manuals	Price

Armor Attack	Y	Y	Y	15
Art Master	Y	N	N	25
Berzerk		Y	Y	Y	15
Cosmic Chasm	Y	Y	Y	15
Hyperchase	Y	Y	Y	15
Spike		Y	Y	Y	15
Spinball	N	Y	Y	8
Star Castle	Y	Y	Y	45
Star Trek 	Y	Y	N	15
Web Wars	Y	Y	Y	15
Vectrex System				120

Thanks for reading!
Gaymond Lee




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Subject: Vectrex Joystick
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I need a vectrex joystick (or two) in working condition or not...please
e-mail me directly if you have anything.  My e-mail address is
Soltaryrpr@aol.com.

Galen

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Subject: Re: VECTREX COMPLETE SET HAS SOLD--- FOR $1,000
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In article <423fcu$apb@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, YAKKO70 <yakko70@aol.com> wrote:
>
>In the end, all it comes down to is that someone out there felt that
>despite the value people put on vectrex systems (Baseline 70 for a system,
>250 or so for a multicart, 5-50 bucks for a cart, Lightpens and 3d Imagers

$250 for a multi-cart?  What have YOU been smoking?  ;)

(Sean Kelly's is around $70, with everything but Animaction.  Which worked
great for me, as I found Animaction at a local flea market for $1.)

			jeff.  now all I need is the light pen and...
				...ah, never mind.


-- 
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From: gdurnell@mail.orion.org (Gordon A. Durnell)
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Subject: FS: Vectrex games
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I have the following Vectrex games for sale.
All are in good condition (no label scratches).

Armor..Attack  Cart/Overlay              $10
Berzerk        Cart only                 $ 5  
Hyperchase     Cart/Overlay/Instructions $15
Scramble       Cart/Overlay              $10
Star Trek      Cart/Overlay              $10

Star Trek also contains original "Self Play Mode Reminder" insert.


All payments in advance - Money Order (US funds).
You pay shipping charges.
Make me an offer for the whole lot.

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From: lorgh@aol.com (LORGH)
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Subject: ANY Vectrex items wanted!
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I would like to buy ANY/ALL items relating to the Vectrex system,
Including carts, boxes, instructions, promotional materials and
advertising, manuals, or ANYTHING else!
please e-mail any info and prices to: lorgh@aol.com

Thanx,
L. Saylor

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The $1,000 selling price has certainly sent shockwaves through this group.
Rec.games.vectrex serves as a pretty good example of a micro-economy, and 
it's
fascinating to me to see the way the market reacts to the news.  It's like
a case study from an economics course.

--We have free exchange of information, and we all have access to sales in
this group. (very close to a true free-market economy)

--Both supply and demand are limited.  How many people read this group?
How many Vectrexi are still in existence?  How many Vectrex fans are online?
Generally speaking, Vectrex systems seem to be especially valued on the Net
among games collectors, and the relative scarcity of systems keeps them in
demand.

--The laws of supply and demand worked nicely with this $1000 system.  As
rare as Vectrexi are, a mint example must be basically one-of-a-kind.  
Demand drove the price up to $1000.  Theoretically, both the buyer and the
seller should be happy -- what's the big deal?

--An interesting side effect:  With news of the $1,000 sale, every Tom, 
Dick, and Harry out to make a quick buck joined the Vectrex gold rush.  
I've seen more equipment offered here in the past week than I have in the
past few months.  Of course, the relative glut in supply seems to be keeping
the prices lower than usual.  If you're out to buy Vectrex stuff, this is a
great time!  The high sale price has motivated people to get rid of systems
they have, or to locate systems to sell.

--Long-term effects of the sale?  Probably none.  It seems doubtful to me
that speculators would start snapping up the systems purely as investments
(like the classic car boom of the past decade, which sent collector car 
prices through the roof while the cars sat unused in warehouses as 
investments.  The speculative bubble eventually burst, and prices have 
come back down quite a bit.)  It seems to me that the opposite is true, and
that all those people who've been hanging on to their equipment until "THE
RIGHT TIME" have suddenly found that the time is now.  It's a bad time for
sellers, and a good time for buyers.  That's why I'll wait just a little 
while before I sell off my 2 systems ;)

Shane B.
Seattle, WA


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Keep the offers coming.  Haven't received anything that satisfies me yet
(close though!).
 
J.

:
Justin Cooze (jcooze@plato.ucs.mun.ca) wrote:
: I have a Vectrex unit with Minestorm/Manuals/Overlay, Extra Controller, 
: and 11 game cartridges in NEW condition in the boxes.

: I'm not interested in selling, rather trading for computer stuff you have 
: that you don't really need (i.e. Barebones system, memory, etc.).  Here's 
: your chance to trade your computer "junk" that's depreciating daily for 
: my Vectrex that (based on what's happening in this group) is sure to 
: appreciate.

: For more information, send me some e-mail.  Let me know what you are 
: willing to trade and we'll take it from there.

: J


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Subject: Re: VECTREX COMPLETE SET HAS SOLD--- FOR $1,000
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Charles E Taylor IV (charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu) wrote:
> I'm not the other poster, but *do* remember that the Vectrex is a video
> GAME system, e.g. a toy.  There's no law that says that toys can't be
> collectible, but a collectible toy is still a toy.

Dave <proudly>: "Mine isn't."

<He turns his Vectrex unit around, and with a flourish displays the text on 
the back label. In bold letters it reads, "THIS IS NOT A TOY">

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In article
<Pine.OSF.3.91j.950903223610.15464B-100000@becker1.u.washington.edu>, "S.
Knibb" <mcfwain@u.washington.edu> writes:

>
>--Long-term effects of the sale?  Probably none.  It seems doubtful to me
>that speculators would start snapping up the systems purely as
investments
>(like the classic car boom of the past decade, which sent collector car 
>prices through the roof while the cars sat unused in warehouses as 
>investments.  The speculative bubble eventually burst, and prices have 
>come back down quite a bit.)  It seems to me that the opposite is true,
and
>that all those people who've been hanging on to their equipment until
"THE
>RIGHT TIME" have suddenly found that the time is now.  It's a bad time
for
>sellers, and a good time for buyers.  That's why I'll wait just a little 
>while before I sell off my 2 systems ;)
>
>Shane B.
>Seattle, WA


The same thing happened in comic books and records and GI Joe ( I used to
collect all three) .... The speculators move in make a quick buck, move on
to something else and Voila! life goes on! .

****

Actually I just paid about $5.00 for a vectrex system

I found an extra Tooth Protectors cart at a flea mkt  for a dollar and
traded it to someone for a vectrex.. I shipped the cart for $4.00 priority
and so that makes my cost $5.00... Wonder what I'll do with the extra
$995.00  :)

he he 

Mike

P.S. I know the rich guy got all the games in a box plus the 3d Imager and
Light pen... I'm just being sarcastic. I also received one game w/mine and
bought a multi cart from that Sean Kelly guy making my cost actually
$75.00 but still.... I wonder if that guy wants to buy my complete
collection of National Geographic Magazines from 1968 on...
they are all in mint shape still in the wrappers and have NEVER BEEN READ
BY ANYONE !!

Sorry, that belongs in rec.mags.marketplace.natgeographic   

Sorry for the crost post, please don't flame me!
 

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David Wooding (wooding@cf.ac.uk) wrote:
: Charles E Taylor IV (charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu) wrote:
: > I'm not the other poster, but *do* remember that the Vectrex is a video
: > GAME system, e.g. a toy.  There's no law that says that toys can't be
: > collectible, but a collectible toy is still a toy.

: Dave <proudly>: "Mine isn't."

: <He turns his Vectrex unit around, and with a flourish displays the text on 
: the back label. In bold letters it reads, "THIS IS NOT A TOY">

Hey, you're right!  Mine too....   :)

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In article <DEDKn3.JHA@cf.ac.uk> wooding@cf.ac.uk (David Wooding) writes:

:<He turns his Vectrex unit around, and with a flourish displays the text on 
:the back label. In bold letters it reads, "THIS IS NOT A TOY">

Only if you beleive that toys for big kids aren't toys.  :)

(Yes I knew about the labels ... heck, I had a Lite Brite with the same 
disclaimer...)


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I am not going to try to suck lots of money out of my Vectrex friends.  
Would like to trade for hand held stuff.

CONTROL PANEL in box
ARMOR ATTACK in box
SOLAR QUEST in box

overlays..MINE STORM, SOLAR QUEST, BERZERK, ARMOR ATTACK, NARZOD
cartridges..SOLAR QUEST, NARZOD, STAR TREK, ARMOR ATTACK
instructions..SOLAR QUEST, MINE STORM, ARMOR ATTACK, NARZOD

1 main unit

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This file is copyrighted (c) 1994 by Gregg Woodcock but may be
distributed in part or in whole by anyone for any purpose (commercial or
otherwise) provided proper credit is given to me and the individual
contributors.  If you do use the FAQ, I would appreciate it if you send
me a copy of whatever you are doing with it.

My plan is to have a 'newbie' part and a 'techie' part.  I still need
some more information about the following questions for it:

    Can a pause switch be built? (YES)
    Can the overlays be reproduced (MAYBE)
    Can a 3D color disk be made? (MAYBE; try using "shrinky-dinks")
    How does the light pen work and can one be built? (YES)
    How does the 3D imager work and can a Sega imager be converted? (MAYBE)

===========================================================================

Q. What is Vectrex?

Here it is in layman's terms:

Vectrex is one of the most inspired video game machines ever produced
(but similar things were said about the Edsel and Titanic).  Its point
of distinction is the fact that it uses vector "line" graphics (as
opposed to raster "pixel" graphics).  This is the same type of screen
used in such arcade classics as Space Wars, Asteroids, Battlezone and
Tempest.  The machine has a 9 x 11 inch black and white screen and comes
with a built-in Asteroids clone called Minestorm.  The games come with
plastic overlays that slide over the screen to cut down on flicker and
give some illusion of color.  It uses one of the most advanced 8 bit
processors, the 68A09 (6809 with 1.5MHz clock speed), and a popular and
excellent sound chip, General Instruments AY-3-8192, which can produce a
wide range of noises.  Also included is a 1.5 inch, self-centering,
joystick with 4 buttons on the right.  It uses an analog/potentiometer
system allowing differing degrees of directional input.

The machine's footprint takes up a little less than a square foot of a
desk (in fact, it quite resembles a jet black Macintosh SE sans mouse
and keyboard), and can be operated easily in that area.  The joystick is
connected via a springy telephone-like cord and can be folded into the
base of the machine for portability.  The machine is moderately
transportable and very well constructed but, alas, very much extinct.
It made its debut late in 1982 and was quite scarce by the end of
1984 due to the Great Video Game Depression of '82 which forced Milton
Bradley (who bought the rights to the Vectrex from General Consumer
Electronics (GCE)) to discontinue production due to to poor sales.
After this, the rights to the Vectrex and all related materials were
returned to the original developers, Smith Engineering.  Smith
Engineering has graciously condoned the not-for-profit circulation of
any duplicatable materials including games and manuals and is happy to
see it is still 'alive' in certain circles.

Here are some more detailed snippets from the service manual:

As a general description, the HP3OOO is a self-contained video game
system intended for home use.  The system includes its own 9" B&W
monitor screen and 3" permanent magnet speaker.  Plug-in ROM type
cartridges are available offering arcade type video and sound game play.
No external TV receiver hookup is needed or provided for.  A front panel
storable controller allows control over the game via joystick and push
button action switches.  For two player operation a second controller
identical to the single player controller is available as an accessory
product.  Both controllers attach to the main game console through nine
wire coiled telephone style cables.  There is a consumer power
switch/volume control on the front panel as well as a game reset button.
A consumer adjustable brightness control is located on the main console
rear housing.

For the technical description which follows, the reader is encouraged to
refer to the block diagram and schematic [not included here].

The HP3OOO is a microprocessor based, vector scan system using a
standard 9" black & white CRT as its video display device.  The
microprocessor (MPU) is the Motorola 68A09 device.  The MPU operates at
1.6 MHz from a 6 MHz external Xtal.  An internal divide by 4 circuit
generates the MPU 1.6 MHz "E" clock signal used in the system.  Program
memory is stored in the 8K x 8 bit 2363 type ROM.  This ROM contains
common subroutines, the "executive" or assembler instructions plus one
complete game.

Two 1K x 4 bit 2114 type static RAMS provide storage locations for data
indicative of locations of objects, game status, and various other
information needed by the microprocessor during game operation.
Peripheral Interface Adaptor (PIA) Chip, has two 8 bit peripheral ports
which interfaces the MPU with peripheral devices and external signals.
One of the PIA ports interfaces the General Instrument AY-3-8912
sound-I.O. chip with the MPU and also drives the digital to analog
converter chip MC1408.  The other PIA port is used as control lines for
the sound chip, selector control for the multiplex chip and as a means
to read the A/D comparator that's used in the joystick successive
approximation circuitry.  Sound is either MPU generated directly or by
use of the AY-3-8912 sound chip.

The AY-3-8912 sound chip is a programmable sound generator containing 3
tone generators and wave shaping circuitry.  This chip also has a single
8 bit I.O. port used to read the status of each of the hand controller's
4 action switches.

The standard TTL device types 74LS00 and 74LS32 are used as control line
decoders to allow the MPU to select the appropriate circuit element to
be addressed at any particular time.

The analog processing section includes digital to analog converter (DAC)
chip type MC1408, dual 4 channel multiplexer/demultiplexer chip type
CD4052, and dual channel op-amps types LF353 and LF347.

DAC chip MC1408 receives an 8 bit word at data terminals D0-D7.  DAC
output (pin 4) is current source.  One section of IC LF353 is used to
change this current to a voltage representative of the 8 bit digital
word received by the DAC chip.  The LF353 voltage is applied to an input
of the dual 4 channel multiplexer (MUX) chip CD4052.  This same voltage
(designated "DAC" on the schematic) is the X-axis drive signal.

The CD4052 MUX chip serves two purposes:  it selectively couples, under
MPU control, the output of the DAC current/voltage converter to one of 4
places and is used to selectively couple the inputs from the joystick
pots to the voltage comparator IC LF353.

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Q. What games were released or on the drawing board before Vectrex died?

Production #      Name (Notes)               [Size or NR=Not Released]
------------   ----------------------------------------------------------
   VT 3000     Minestorm (built-in game; Asteroids clone)    [4K]
   VT 3101     Cosmic Chasm (1st home game ported to arcade) [4K]
   VT 3102     Rip Off (Cinematronics arcade port)           [4K]
   VT 3103     Scramble (Konami arcade port)                 [4K]
   VT 3104     Solar Quest (Cinematronics arcade port)       [4K]
   VT 3105     Space Wars (Cinematronics arcade port)        [4K]
   VT 3106     Starhawk (Cinematronics arcade port)          [4K]
   VT 3107     Star Trek (AKA Star Ship in Europe)           [4K]
   VT 3108     Web Wars (AKA Web Warp in ?????) (best game?) [8K]
   VT 3109     Star Castle (Cinematronics arcade port)       [4K]
   VT 3201     Hyperchase (very bad driving game)            [4K]
   VT 3202     Blitz! Action Football                        [8K]
   VT 3203     Heads-Up Action Soccer (AKA Soccer in Europe) [8K]
   VT 3204     Spinball (AKA Flipper in Europe) (has PAUSE!) [8K]
   VT 3205     Pitcher's Duel -OR- Batter Up Action Baseball [NR]
   VT 3206     Pole Position (Atari/Namco arcade port)       [8K]
   VT 3301     Armor Attack (Cinematronics arcade port)      [4K]
   VT 3302     Berzerk (Stern arcade port; high levels crash)[4K]
   VT 3303     Clean Sweep (Pac-Man clone)                   [4K]
   VT 3304     Fortress of Narzod (great shooter)            [8K]
   VT 3305     Bedlam (Tempest clone)                        [4K]
   VT 3306     Spike (It talks!  Originally called Buster?)  [8K]
   VT 3307     Dark Tower (ONLY 1 KNOWN TO EXIST!!!)         [12K=8K+4K]
   VT 3308     Polar Rescue (Good subhunt game) (has PAUSE!) [8K]
   VT 3600     Light Pen (Hardware; required for 360X games)
   VT 3601     Art Master (light pen) (pack-in game)         [4K]
   VT 3602     Melody Master (light pen)                     [8K]
   VT 3603     Mail Plane (light pen) (100% completed)       [NR]
   VT 3604     Animaction (light pen)                        [8K+2K RAM]
   VT 3630     3-D Imager (Hardware; required for 363X games)
   VT 3631     3-D Pole Position (3-D) (completed?)          [NR]
   VT 3632     3D Minestorm (3-D) (pack-in game)             [8K]
   VT 3633     Narrow Escape (3-D) (same color disk as CC)   [8K]
   VT 3634     Crazy Coaster (3-D) (same color disk as NE)   [8K]
   VT ????     Test Cartridge (issued to repair centers only)[4K]
   VT ????     Tour de France (100% completed)               [NR]
   VT ????     HangMan (touchscreen) (pack-in game; complete)[NR]

The following games and accessories were planned but never released:
Cartridges:
   Art Master II
   Art Master III
   Art Master IV
   Basic Science
   Create-A-Game/Maze
   Exploring the Solar System
   Flipout
   Hangman (game developed for use with Touch Screen)
   Pitcher's Duel
   Pole Position (for 3D imager)
   Power Trip
   Sock It
Accessories:
   Touch-Sensitive Screen (prototype known to exist)
   Computer Adaptor with BASIC (prototypes rumored to exist)
      Computer Keyboard
      Printer
      Disk Driver/Wafer Tape Drive
      Modem
      Computer Software:
         Create Your Own Video Game
         Music Maestro
         Art Program in LOGO
         Basic Science
         Solar System
         Word Processing

A company called Roy Abel & Associates also commercially exploited the
Vectrex by using it as a text terminal (which is about the worst thing
it can do) to perform the "Luscher Color Test" after you put a quarter
into a coin device which activated the unit.  You would pick colors in
the order that they appealed to you (again, why did they use a black and
white display for this job?), and it would tell you about your
personality.  Actually, no matter what you picked it would tell you
something that you could identify with; all of the statements were
pretty vague.  The guy that programmed it did not understand the
hardware; the text scrolled up the screen, but lines popped on at the
bottom and disappeared near the top instead of scrolling on and off from
offscreen.  Roy had GCE's permission and blessing to do the project.  In
fact, Lee Chaden (big guy at GCE) was at his facility.

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Q. What miscellaneous Vectrex items might my collection be missing?

Here is a list of most of the extra stuff that isn't a cart, overlay,
box or regular manual...

* Orange 5"x3.75" sheet notifying us of GCE's change of address
* "IMPORTANT SAFETY INSTRUCTIONS" addendum to Owner's Manual
 (No. 98722-072).  This listed 17 things you shouldn't do
* Canadian addendum to Onwer's Manual for warranty info (pg 11/12)
* Manual for the Control Panel (Joystick)
* White 5.5"x3" manuals for the Light Pen and 3D Glasses
* White 3"x4" 3D Imager addendum describing how to work the color disk latch
* White 3.5"x4.5" 3D Crazy Coaster addendum telling how to survive underpasses
* White 4"x6" Minestorm addendum (P/N 140028-1) describing wave 13 bug
* White 2.5"x2.5" addendum to the Star Trek manual describing self-play bug
* A catalog of games (same size as regular manuals) from "Triton"
* A catalog of games (same size as regular manuals) called "Passport"
* A 7.5"x3.5" pamphlet listing HW and games called "High Performance Machine"
* Vectrex unit warranty registration card (and Owner's Club form)
* Electronic Games Magazine subscription form (44% off for Vectrex players)
* Custom Designed Accessories for your Vectrex Arcade System order form
  listing a collapsable carrying case ($14.95) and a vinyl dust cover
  ($5.95).
* carrying case for the Vectrex
* protective dust cover for the Vectrex
* Service Manual
* Test Cart
* The first (and only?) issue of the Owner's Club magazine "Passport"

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Q. Where is the Vectrex ftp archive and what is there?

The ftp Vectrex information archive is at ftp.csus.edu (130.86.90.1)
and is maintained by John F. Sandhoff <sandhoff@csus.edu>.

There are binary listings (2 flavors; pure binary from the ROMs, and
Motorola "S-format" dumps) for most of the games along with instructions
on how to burn Eproms.  There are several commented examples of code
demonstrating how to write both music and graphics.  There is also a
copy of the service manual and much more.  Almost all of the stuff is
bundled into a compressed file called "vectrex.tar.Z".  There are plenty
of experiments to keep an eager hacker busy.  Recently, some GIF/JPEG
files were added showing some of the screen overlays (there are also
GIFs of the 2 color wheels).  Also, text files of the manuals for most,
if not all, of the games are there.

David Wright <davewt@NCoast.ORG> will be putting the vectrex stuff up
his email server.  If you don't have FTP access, this may work for you.
If you want to try and get at it, the email server is at
"impinfo@Prism1.COM".  If your site doesn't like that, try
"prism1!impinfo@NCoast.ORG".  To receive a list of the files available
place "send vect.index" in the message body.  You can also add "send
help" to get a complete set of instructions.  Be aware that some of
these files are huge and may push you over your mailbox or disk space
quota immediately.

===========================================================================

Q. Isn't copying the games by burning EPROMs stealing or violating a
copyright?

If the system is "dead" then no money is lost by making copies of
something which otherwise would never be available.  Even so, it is a
fuzzy matter and technically the answer should probably be, "YES."
Fortunately, Smith Engineering has given Usenetters permission to make
copies of all Vectrex related materials (manuals, games, overlays, etc.)
as long as it is for distribution to members of the group and as long as
it is not for profit.

===========================================================================

Q.  I ordered a multi-cart from Mark Woodward well over a year ago and
paid him in advance.  I am having trouble getting hold of him and I
still haven't received my cart.  Did I get ripped off?

Here is everything I know.  The multi-carts came back from the
fabricator shortly after everybody got their orders in and Mark built
them and started sending them out.  It turns out that there are 2
different hardware designs for the Vectrex and Mark had the less
common version.  Unfortunately this first multi-cart design is
incompatible with the most common version of the Vectrex hardware and
most of the multi-carts had to be sent back to Mark for repair (and he
stopped sending the originals out, also).  Mark then had to do several
expensive and time consuming things; he had to locate and purchase one
of the other versions of the Vectrex, he had to redesign the PCB and
find a way to make the new design backward compatible with the old
design so that he could reuse the PCBs, he had to rewrite the software
which meant he had to unsolder the EPROMs (since they weren't
socketed) and erase them, reprogram them, and solder them back on.  He
then has to upgrade the PCB by cutting several traces and soldering on
several jumpers.

As you can see, fixing all these PCBs takes a LONG time and a lot of
effort (and money since he has to pay double-shipping for all the carts
that did go out).  To complicate matters, Mark changed email addresses
(and jobs?), and was blessed with the birth of a new baby creating a
large drain on his "free" time.  I am not excusing his tardiness and I
agree that even considering these circumstances the delay is still too
long to excuse.  I am just trying to give you all some background as to
how a good idea went very wrong.  I talked to Mark sometime around the
beginning of September and he told me that as of that date all
international orders had been filled and that there were exactly 15 USA
orders left to be retrofitted.

I offered to do the retrofits for him and he agreed to send the
materials to me.  He decided to send the stuff to be fixed immediately
and it arrived sometime around Halloween and I have been working on them
ever since.  I have completed all repairs several times only to have a
couple of other neccessary repairs creep up.  At the beginning of
December I got MOST of the carts working (all of the 15 except 3) and
sent them out to people the 1st week in December and sent the 3 screwy
ones back to Mark.  By the end of Decmeber, he had them all working and
sent them to the owners.

So it boils down to this, if you paid for a cart and didn't get one, you
are out of luck because there are no more.  You need to contact Mark and
work something out with him.

===========================================================================

Q.  Do I have to make my own multi-cart; can't I just buy one from
somebody?

No; I mean, Yes, err...  There are several people making multi-carts
for resale on the net but the best ones (by far) were being made by Mark
Woodward.  He has sold out of the original batch and it was such a
headache that he will not be doing it again.  Instead, I have taken over
the project and am working on getting the images to some unreleased, yet
completed games.  They are Tour de France and Mail Plane (and perhaps
another "goodie" that isn't really a game but a silly in-house project
never meant for release).

Until I get those images (should be soon now), I will not be building
any multicarts because I don't know how big the images are (the recently
discovered Dark Tower image, for example, is 12K).  The reason this
matters is because I am going to be rewriting Mark's menu code to acount
for files of flexible length (right now it just uses 8K boundaries and
wastes a large hunk of the EPROM) and I will also need to redesign the
hardware.  I plan on using Xilynx chips and reduce the design to
essentially 4 chips so that the PCB will be able to fit inside a
canabalized cartridge case.

The carts will allow you to select the games via a menu on the Vectrex
screen instead of by flipping dip switches as most others do.  The carts
will support the RAM for Animaction and include a 'pause' button
allowing you to pause any of the games.  They will contain all the
released games plus the Test Cart and 2 hacked versions of Minestorm
(infinite lives and more shots) and any other goodies I can fit (which
after the redesign should be most of what is at the archive).

The estimated price breakdown is as follows...
$30 PCB + S/W selection
$20 EPROM (unless you can send me one)
$20 Xilynx LCA chips
$10 Donation to charity of your choice
$5  RAM (Optional)
$5  Misc parts (solder, switches, etc.)
---
$90 Complete, ready-to-play multicart ($10 to charity, $80 to me)

If I build it for you then there will be a $5 charge for miscellaneous
parts and you will be obligated donate $10 to a local charity to cover
my time.  This is in the spirit of the Smith Engineering agreement for
'not-for-profit' duplication.  The only 'profit' I will get is from the
s/w selection code which I deserve and am entitled to because I licensed
the 100% original code from Mark who wrote (owns) it.  The games have
been generously donated by Smith Engineering and the parts will be sold
at cost (with a little to cover shipping).

The PCBs are made at a professional manufacturer and include plated
through holes, etc.  No hack and slash job here :>

If you want to build it yourself I will provide you with the PCB, a
programmed EPROM (or image if you can blast your own) and a parts list.

At this point, I am not ready to accept orders but if you want to get on
the waiting list, email me your name, address and telephone number and
I'll let you know when I begin making them again; hopefully this will be
in the next few months but it all depends on when I get the new games
and how long it takes me to redesign the HW/SW.  This FAQ will be
updated as the situation changes.

===========================================================================

Q. How do I play <game X>?

Simple, read the manual.  WHAT; you don't have a manual?  OK then, read
the screen overlay (it lists the functions of all the buttons).  You
don't have the screen overlay either?  In that case most (maybe all by
now) of the manuals have been transcribed into text files and made
available via ftp.  YOU DON'T HAVE FTP EITHER?  OK, I'll tell you what;
in the spirit of Smith Engineering's generosity, I will volunteer my
services as Vectrex copy shop.

I have all of the overlays and manuals (as well as some extra stuff like
the service manual, "Passport" magazine, the "Triton" and "Passport"
catalog pamphlets, and the "High Performance Machine" pamphlet) and am
willing to make copies for free to anybody that is willing to play by my
"rules".

You must send a Self-Addressed, Stamped Envelope (SASE) along with a
listing of everything that you want photocopies of (black and white
copies only; if you want color overlay copies, send $2.50 for each one
since color copies cost $$$).  You will receive double sided copies
unless you specifically request single sided ones.

I will fill the orders only about once a month so don't hold your breath
for a quick return.  Please note that these will not be replicas in any
particular sense.  I will be copying them as you would a book (I WILL
NOT REMOVE THE STAPLES TO REPLICATE THE SHEETS TO FACILITATE MAKING
EXACT DUPLICATES).  If you want exact duplicates, you will need to
modify the copies I send you (I am trying to keep my effort to a
minimum).

If I need to fold something to fit it in your SASE, then I will, so keep
that in mind if you want unfolded stuff.  The amount of postage is left
up to you to figure out; I am just going to copy, stuff, and send; I
will not verify sufficient postage.  Tips are appreciated (particularly
if you are asking for a *lot* of copying) but not neccesary nor
required; this is a free service.

Send SASE to:
   Gregg Woodcock
   2930 Dukeswood Drive
   Garland, TX 75040-8770
   U.S.A

P.S.  If you take advantage of either of these services, it would be
nice if you would "pay the community back" by transcribing at least one
document that is not currently at the ftp site and uploading it (or
emailing it to me and I will get it there).  I am pretty sure none of
the "extra" stuff I have has been transcribed yet.

P.P.S.  If you have an original service manual, please contact me so I
can get an copy of it (or buy it from you).  The copy I have is Nth
generation and is very hard to read...


===========================================================================

Q. Is there a way to make a Vectrex joystick perhaps with autofire
capability?

Brian Holscher <brianh@ichips.intel.com> has designed a flexible way to
convert a Sega Genesis controller for use with the Vectrex.  He will
build one for you for a small fee or if you check the archives, you will
find a file describing how to build one yourself (it is more complex
than you will probably be expecting).  Here is the first part of that
file:

This information including schematics is copyright 1994 by Brian
Holscher.  This information is free for distribution as long as its not
used for commercial purposes.


        Using Sega Controllers with Vectrex
            (Revision 2.0a)

This Section explains:

1.  How to convert a Sega Controller to work with Vectrex.
1.  How to make a Sega Controller to Vectrex Adaptor.
2.  Where to purchase a converted Sega Controller.
3.  Where to purchase a Sega to Vectrex controller adapter.


BACKGROUND

    Since my Vectrex controller is flaky, I bought a cheap Sega
Controller and converted it to work on the Vectrex.  From there I added
some nice features like autofire and re-programmable buttons.  I decided
to post schematics for those who want to make Vectrex controllers.
After talking with others on the net, I decided to build a Sega to
Vectrex adapter.  This is a little harder than converting controllers,
but I got one to work.  This posting includes info and schematics for
both.

    For those who don't want the hassle of making your own controllers,
I'm offering converted controllers and adapters for sale.  I'm also
offering a preprogrammed micro-controller for sale.


LIMITATIONS

    The Sega Controller is a digital controller.  The Vectrex control
panel is an analog controller.  Games like Minestorm don't look at the
analog values of the joystick and only look to see what direction the
joystick is moved.  Games like Minestorm work with these converted Sega
controllers.  Games like HyperChase look at how far the joystick moves
in a direction and are not fun to play with these converted controllers.

All (known) games work with these converted controllers and adaptors
with 2 exceptsion.  Hyperchase (all game variations) and Starhawk (game
variation #2 only) are completely unplayable due to the need for analog
controller data.


FEATURES

    This design incorporates a micro-controller for additional
functionality.  The micro-controller allows the user to program which
Sega Controller button maps to which Vectrex button.  This is useful
since the 4th button (called Start) on the Sega Controller is a smaller
and inconveniently located since it is normally reserved for starting
games on Sega systems.  The micro-controller even allows reprogramming
of the button assignments in the middle of a game.  Another feature is
auto-fire.  Any button can be set to auto-fire.  This means that the
micro-controller presses the button over and over again instead of the
player.


CONTROLLERS VRS ADAPTERS

    Adapters give you the advantage of using any Sega Controller with
Vectrex and still be able to use it on the Sega system.  If you don't
have a Sega controller, a converted controller is less cost than an
adaptor plus the cost of a Sega controller.  Another slight advantage is
that the LED thats informs the user during button reprogramming and
auto-fire is easier to see on a converted controller.  The
micro-controller is optional if you are converting your own Sega
controller.  However, the micro-controller is required for the adapter.


BUYING CONVERTED CONTROLLERS

    If your don't want to convert a controller or make an adapter
yourself, you can purchase them from me.  You can also purchase a
preprogrammed micro-controller from me.

Sourme Code for Micro-controller ------- Free if you ask nicely.

Preprogrammed Micro-controller  -------- $20
(The includes Xtal and Xtal capacitors)

Converted Sega Controller  ------------- $45

Sega to Vectrex Adaptor    ------------- $45

Shipping is included.  Send email to brianh@ichips.intel.com and we will
work out the details.

===========================================================================

Q. How can I make a copy of a screen overlay?

With the advances made in the past 2 years in color scanners, copiers
and priners, it is now possible to make a near exact duplicate with the
push of a (few) button(s).

0.  First you need an original overlay, prefereably one with little fading.
1.  If you want a "rough" copy, simply get a good high end color
    photocopy onto acetate (those overhead projector plastic sheets).
2.  If you want a better copy, you scan the image, preferably in color.
    I think 150 dpi is okay though some people may want to go for
    maximum resolution.
3.  Then you need a good paint program, I used Adobe Photoshop to do some
    preliminary clean-up work, but I have a feeling it would take quite
    a bit of work to make a perfect overlay.
4.  Prining--the critical part.  You need a color printer that can do
    acetate (animation cel) printouts.  Unfortunately, no color printer
    can work on thick sheets, which brings us to 5.
5.  You need go to to a hobby shop and get a piece of .045 thick clear
    sheet of [poly]styrene.  Its prtty cheap.
6.  The only part I haven't worked out, bonding the acetate overlay to
    the styrene.  It is probable that there are some mucho expensive
    color printers that professional print shops use that can print onto
    any thickness sheets but I haven't done much looking.

Thanks to Noel <NOEL@UMBC2.UMBC.edu> for this info.

===========================================================================

Q. My Vectrex is very noisy; is there anything I can do to make it any
quieter?

Here is what Daniel A Muntz <dmuntz@quip.eecs.umich.edu> said helped
him:  The noise isn't digital in nature and it closely follows the
video.  It also isn't a power supply problem; isolating the audio input
of the amplifier from the sound circuit revealed no noise at all.  It
seems the noise is generated in two ways:

1: By induction; Moving the audio cable around makes the noise less or
   more prominent.  It is at minimum when the cable is placed in its
   original manufactured groove.  Good design since that's farthest from
   the CRT yoke.
2: By ground impedance; Although all supplies are clean the hum is still
   present in the modulated dc difference between the two boards.

A definite improvement can be achieved by doing the following:

1: Rewiring the ground between the digital and video board.
2: Shielding audio circuit and changing cable to volume pot to a better
   shielded one.

===========================================================================

Q. My joystick wont auto-center anymore; can I fix it?
   (A.K.A. How do I get inside or open up my joystick?)

You can't make it "good-as-new", but you can repair it so that is is
usable again.  You must first get past the sticker on the top of the
joystick to get at the 5 screws that hold it together (4 are about 3/8"
in from the sides and 1/2" from the top/bottom ahd the last is about
1/2" tot hte right of the cable).  Just feel around and you should be
able to find where the holes are.  You can either try to peel off the
sticker (difficult to do without damaging it but possible if you are
careful) or simply punch 5 holes in it so you can remove the screws
(leaving most of the sticker intact).  Now that you have the joystick
open, remove the broken spring that used to center the joystick.  Use
the core from the largest available guitar string to replace the spring
you just removed.  If you snip off one end you can remove the (usually
gold) wire wrapped around a core wire by pulling on the gold wire.
Credit goes to Dan Muntz once again for this clever solution and to Mike
Packard <lordgen@kaiwan.com> for details about the screws.

===========================================================================

Q. Are there tricks or cheats for any Vectrex games?

YES! (Vectrex had cheats back when they were still known as bugs):

ARMOR ATTACK:  If you crank the brightness all the way up, you are able
to see the helicopter's position as soon as you hear it (even thought it
is off the screen).

BEDLAM:  You can see a special author title screen that proclaims,
"PROGRAMMED BY WILLIAM HAWKINS GT 1982" if you follow the instructions
found in the "STAR CASTLE" entry below.  I discovered this by trying the
"original" Star Castle trick on other games that I knew Bill wrote.
This screen is different from all the similar ones in that it plays
music too!  You are treated to the melody line that accompanies the
lyrics "Oh I wish I was from the land of cotton".  The screen ends when
the tune finishes and releasing buttons has no effect.

BERZERK:  The hunt for this egg began thanks to Pete Rittwage
<bushwick@netcom.com> who first reported it but could not reproduce it.
Even after confirming the trick with Chris King, the author of the game,
nobody was able to find it because Chris had forgotten exactly what was
required to activate it!  Then along came net.hero Fred Taft
<fred@hpcvusc.cv.hp.com> with the answer after disassembling the object
code.  Before your man stops flashing when you kill your last man, press
and hold down only the 1, 3, and 4 buttons on the player 1 control
panel.  When the "GOT YOU HUMANOID" summary screen appears with your
socre, there will be the author's initials in the lower right corner
("CMK").  This screen will stay for about 90 seconds before going back
to the game select screen and you cannot get out of it by pressing
buttons.

BLITZ!:  If you get a 1st and inches (1 and 0 to go), as long as you
stay on the 0 yd line, you keep getting first downs.  Thanks to Adam Fox
<adamfox@super.org> for this one.

COSMIC CHASM:  You can see a special author title screen that proclaims,
"PROGRAMMED BY WILLIAM HAWKINS GT 1982" if you follow the instructions
found in the "STAR CASTLE" entry below.  I discovered this by trying the
"original" Star Castle trick on other games that I knew Bill wrote.

FORTRESS OF NARZOD:  If you can somehow manage to kill the "Mystic
Hurler" (you know, the BossAtTheEndOfTheWave guy that looks like a
gorilla) at the same time he kills you, your lives remaining will turn
into the infinity sign (oo) and you will have 255 lives.  It is not
known for sure if your lives in reserve value has to be zero for this to
work (probably so since this bug is most likely due to an accidental
underflow from 0 to -1 which assumably would trigger the software to be
in virtual infinite play mode to aid play/beta testing).  The author
takes credit for this one!

MINESTORM:  The brightness trick allows you to see the "invisible"
mines.

RIPOFF:  You can see a special author title screen that proclaims,
"PROGRAMMED BY WILLIAM HAWKINS GT 1982" if you follow the instructions
found in the "STAR CASTLE" entry below.  I discovered this by trying the
"original" Star Castle trick on other games that I knew Bill wrote.

SPACE WARS:  Either ship is invincible after being hit, while pieces are
in the air.  This may not sound like much, or maybe this was
intentional, but I've played against people who make this their entire
strategy.  They skim the edge of the Star in the middle, just to knock
off a tail section or something, and then while they are invincible,
they fly right into you.  Not nice, but it works very well.  The time
window is surprisingly long.

SCRAMBLE:  A quote from Paul Allen Newell, developer of the game:  I
remember going thru long discussions with management about giving the
programmers credit on the games.  Western Technologies and/or GCE didn't
approve it and most of the programmers hide their names somewhere in the
games.  My "Easter Egg" can be located in "Scramble" by doing the
following.  If you have two controllers with joystick and buttons, put
them both in; otherwise, use the single one in the usual position.
While "Scramble" is displaying its "game # player #" section, move the
joystick so it is "down".  When "Scramble" starts, keep it in this down
position so your plane crashes on the floor BEFORE THE MOUNTAINS START.
Do this for all you ships, DO NOT PUSH ANY BUTTONS TO FIRE BOMBS OR
BULLETS.  When it is over, the display "end" will come up.  WITHOUT
TOUCHING ANY BUTTONS, unplug the main controller and move it to the
"player two" plug (if you have two controllers, this step is not
necessary).  Then, with the "player two" controller, PUSH ALL FOUR
BUTTONS SIMULTANEOUSLY.  They must all go down at the same time.  Repeat
until you get all four down at the same time.  You'll know when you see
the word "end" change into something else.  This is the first time I
have documented the method, having only mentioned it to friends or
hinted to others.  Enjoy!  (Thanks a LOT to Stefan Herr
<Steve@lioness.okapi.sub.org> for digging up this one-of-a-kind jem).

SPIKE:  If you position the door ALMOST all the way to the right of the
screen, then jump into it, so as to be jammed between the door, and the
little space that is left; the game freaks out, you will be pushed
forward about 47,000 points, and the difficulty will be increased
proportionally.

STAR CASTLE:  This is the most extravagant egg of all the Vectrex games.
The designer put in his own title screen which brazenly proclaims
"PROGRAMMED BY WILLIAM HAWKINS GT 1983".  A quick caveat; this only
works on a cold restart (i.e. the first time you turn the game on) and
will not work if you start the game over by pressing the reset button.
However, it will work with the software selectable muticarts if Star
Castle is the first game you select after turning the game on.  To get
the screen to appear you must push the 1, 2, and 4 keys on the player 1
control panel before the Star Castle title screen music finishes
playing.  If those 3 buttons are down when tune ends, the author title
screen will appear.  It will last for about 2 seconds or until you
release one of the buttons.  It is my guess that the GT stands for
Georgia Tech and the 1983 is the year the software was written.  (MANY
thanks to Fred Taft <fred@hpcvusc.cv.hp.com> for discovering this after
disassembling the object code).

WEB WARS:  You can see a special author title screen that proclaims,
"PROGRAMMED BY WILLIAM HAWKINS DUNCAN MUIRHEAD PATRICK KING GT 1983" if
you follow the instructions found in the "STAR CASTLE" entry above.  I
discovered this by trying the "original" Star Castle trick on other
games that I knew Bill wrote.  This screen is different from all the
similar ones in that the font size is about 3 times as big.

===========================================================================

Q. What is the history of the Vectrex?

A.  Thanks a lot to Stefan Herr <steve@lioness.okapi.sub.org> for the
following information he dug up while researching an article for a
European gaming magazine.  If you have any additions or corrections,
please contact both of us.  Thanks also to Chris King who sent me
personal email to fill some gaps.

VECTREX TIMETABLE
-----------------

End 1980/Spring 1981:  The development of Vectrex starts with an idea by
Jay Smith, head of Western Technologies/Smith Engineering, and his
talented staff for a small, vector scan table top game they call "Mini
Arcade".  It is possible that the real inspiration for the product may
have actually come from Gerry Karr and/or John Ross.

Spring 1981:  The Vectrex idea is optioned to Kenner (known for their
"Star Wars", "Care Bears", "Batman" and "Batman Returns" figures).
Vectrex planned to have a 5" black and white tube.

06/1981:  Paul A. Newell is hired by Western Technologies to join the
"Atari reverse engineering project" group (aim:  be able to write games
for the VCS 2600) which at that point consisted of Mark Indictor and
John Hall.

07/1981:  Kenner declines to pursue the Vectrex.

08 or 09/1981:  The Vectrex concept is licensed by GCE (General Consumer
Electronics).  GCE's president Ed Krakauer had the vision to see the
great potential of the system.  To enhance its appeal, GCE asks that the
screen be increased to 9-inches.

Autumn 1981:  The Atari project is cancelled and the three Atari people
(M.I., P.N., J.H.)  start work on the Vectrex project.  John Ross
designs the hardware, Gerry Karr works together with John Hall on the
system ROM (called "The Executive").  In the beginning it is planned to
use a 6502 processor which turns out to be too slow.  For this reason
the 6809 is used finally.

Jan 1982:  Bill Hawkins and Chris King join the Western Tech.  They were
both students at Georgia Tech at the time and are hired by Ed Smith as
"Cooperative Education" students.  They are supposed to work for three
months and then go back to school.  Duncan Muirhead joins a week or two
afterwards.  He had just dropped out of a Physics PHD program at UCLA.

??:  A strict timetable demands that the first 12 games and the hardware
should be ready in June 1982.

??:  John Hall later exclusively works on "Mine Storm" while Gerry Karr
works on The Executive alone.  Gerry starts over from scratch and
changes the name to the RUM (Run Time Monitor).  In the end, a number of
people contribe to the RUM, most notably Duncan Muirhead who handled
most of the heavy trig stuff.

04/1982:  Paul Newell finishes "Scramble".  Mine Storm, Bezerk, Scamble,
Rip Off, and Star Trek were all completed at the same time.

06/1982:  The Vectrex is introduced to the public on the Summer-CES in
Chicago.

Summer 1982:  Mark Indictor, John Hall and others are directly hired by
GCE to write more games.  Paul Newell and Duncan Muirhead leave Western
Technologies to join Simutrek, a company developing arcade laser disc
games ("Cube Quest").  Chris King leaves 6 months later.  Noah Anglin
(former vice president of Atari) was hired by GCE as a consultant to
watch over the development of Vectrex.  It was a good deal for him since
he recruited the core of the software guys for his new company,
Simutrek, from Western Technologies.  Unfortunatly, this wasn't enough.
Simutrek died on the vine.

??:  Mark Indictor and his family move about two hours out of Los
Angeles and he writes games in the seclusion of a pine forest at 5,000
ft.  He even has an NBC news crew come up and interview him for a news
show on weird computer hackers and their life styles.

Late summer 82:  Start of mass production.

11/1982:  Vectrex is available in the USA for $199.  Very positive
reviews in the magazines.  Paul Newell's "Scramble" gets the "Arcade
Award" of the "Electronic Games" magazine for the best "Mini-Arcade
game" (a category which is founded exclusively for the Vectrex).

Spring 1983:  GCE is acquired by Milton Bradley (MB).

03/1983:  Vectrex is announced in the German "Telematch" magazine for
the first time in Germany.

Summer 1983:  Distribution begins in Germany and many other west
European countries by Milton BradleyB (German office located in Fuerth).

1983:  Several efforts fail in developing a color Vectrex.  One obvious
project is to use a color TV tube; however, this is always too
expensive.  Another is to use a projection TV with three vector scan
tubes.  It works well but is commercially impractical.  Yet another
effort is to use two layers of color phosphor on a black and white type
TV tube.  By varying the high voltage level, the electron beam would
excite the bottom layer or the top layer.  However the high voltage
cannot be changed rapidly enough to keep up with the scan.

02/1984:  "Artmaster Lightpen", "Star Castle", "Polar Rescue",
"Animaction" and "Pole Position" presented on the "Nuernberger
Spielwarenmesse" (Germany's most important show for the toy industry).

around 02/84:  3D-Imager is presented at the Winter-CES in Las Vegas.

31/03/1984:  End of Vectrex in Germany:  MB in Fuerth announces stop of
sales on this date.

Rest of 1984:  Vectrex is phased out as Hasbro buys Milton Bradley and
video game fever comes crashing down (probable reason:  home computer
fever).  Rummage sales in Germany (mainly in stores of the METRO-chain,
which had bought the rest of MB's stock) close out Vectrex equipment at
bargain prices.

1988:  Western Technologie/Smith Enginerring tries to resurrect Vectrex
as a handheld unit.  It is to be based on the Sinclair flat TV tube,
which has fast static deflection at low power consumption and low cost.
However, the impending introduction of GameBoy causes the idea to be
scrapped.

10/1993:  A feature about the 10th anniversary of the Vectrex is
published in the German "Video Games" magazine.  Contains technical
descriptions, pictures of Jay Smith and Mark Indictor, a Vectrex history
and a list of games and accessories.  The article is based on
information collected by the author (Stefan Herr) from the Usenet
Vectrex newsgroup, various FTP archives, many emails from several former
Vectrex developers and a historical overiew about the development by Jay
Smith.

There is not very much evidence of the existance of a computer keyboard
with a BASIC cartridge (or something similar) for the Vectrex.  The only
known hints are from an article in an old issue of "Creative Computing"
magazine (in the first couple of pages they do a ranking of computers'
speed based on some simple benchmark.  There is an entry for the Vectrex
in it using Vectrex basic) and an article about new computers starting
on page 114 of the October, 1983 issue of Popular Science.  A chart in
the article indicates that the keyboard was to include 16K of RAM,
expandable to 64K.  The article goes in to great detail about the
computer add-on.  Thanks to Joshua See who can be reached at
SMTC474@uoft02.utoledo.edu.

It is the issue that reviewed the original Macintosh (1984?).


LIST OF PERSONS INVOLVED IN THE VECTREX DEVELOPMENT
---------------------------------------------------

Lenny Carlson
   Musician hired to write game sounds and title tunes
   Did finishing touches to Bedlam

Jeff Corseglia
   Main game desginer (titles unknown)

John Hall (*)
   Worked on The Executive 
   Author of Mine Storm

Bill Hawkins
   Author of 3-D Minestorm
   Author of 3-D Crazy Coaster
   Author of Bedlam
   Author of Cosmic Chasm
   Author of Lenny Carlson's Greatest Bits (never intended for release)
   Author of Rip Off
   Author of Star Castle
   Author (with 2 others) of Web Wars

Mark Indictor (*)
   First duties during development:
      Software for communication with the ICE (In-Circuit-Emulator)
      Star Trek
   Games:
      for Western Technologies:
         Star Trek
      for GCE
         Spinball
         Polar Rescue
         Mail Plane (not published, for use with Lightpen)
         Tour de France (not published)

Gerry Karr
   Took over The Executive project after John Hall concentrated on Mine
   Storm

Chris King
   Author of Berzerk
   Author of Hyperchase

Patrick King (*not* related to Chris)
   Author (with 2 others) of Web Wars

Ronald J. Logsdon
   Author of Melody Master

Kim Martin
   Digitized the Scramble landscapes
   Beta-tester (mainly for Scramble)

Richard "the mouse" Moskowski
   Programmed games (titles unkonwn)
   Designed game watches prior to Vectrex

Duncan Muirhead
   Joined WT at the end of 1981 (or beginning of 1982)
   Author of Armor...Attack
   Author (with 2 others) of Web Wars

Walter Nakano
   Model builder; co-designed the external case 1-2 years before the
   Macintosh!

Paul Allen Newell (*)
   Sole author of Scramble

Gary Niles
   Executive Officer of some kind

Mike Purvis
   "Hardware Tech" (responsibilities unknown)

John Ross
   Developer of the hardware

Tom Sloper
   Main game desginer (titles unknown)
   Went on to work high up at Activision but has left for now.

Ed Smith (Jay's brother)
   Manager of enginerring during early development
   Before Vectrex, he worked at Harris in Orlando and frequently used GA
   Tech Co-ops
   Hired a bunch of ex-Harris guys to work at a new Wester Technologies
   branch office in Orlando where a number of games were written

Jay Smith
   Founder and president of Western Technologies/Smith Engineering

Colin Vowels
   Model builder; co-designed the external case 1-2 years before the
   Macintosh.

(*):  These persons worked on the "Atari reverse engineering" project.
Only one of the three games that were created by that group was released
(the one written by Paul Newell).  Anyway, the whole project was
cancelled later because the competition (e.g. Activision) was too big.

Other people involved (this list does not claim to be complete) were
David Blair, Alan Cobb, Jeff Corsiglia, Ed Faris, Joel Hassell, Don
Herndon, Ed Horton, Bill Hudson, Kevin Hudson, Nolan Johnson, Steve
Marking, Lori Pearsall, and Bob Rutowski.

Sources:  Electronic mails from Mark Indictor, Paul Newell, Chris King,
Ronald J.  Logsdon, Bill Hawkins, personal letter from Jay Smith,
several articles from "Electronic Games" magazine (provided by Paul
Newell), article from "Creative Computing" magazine (provided by Dion
Dock).

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i'd really like to get rid of this whole shebang in one lump.
make me an offer....

this stuff is in really, really good shape and boxed items
are complete with manuals, box insert and overlay..  none
of this is flea market junk. all (except the loose items) 
were bought by me personally way back when...

this is the same collection that generated the magnificent
3-D imager stuff that tony mason recently auctioned off for
quite a load of cash...


loose items:

light pen (doesn't work)
animaction (cartridge only)
fortress of narzod (w/ manual and scratchy overlay)
controller

boxed items:

vectrex system (styrofoam and all)
clean sweep
armor attack
spike
web wars
star castle
heads up
melody master
animaction
starhawk
hyperchase
spinball
blitz
solar quest
space wars
rip off
bedlam
cosmic chasm
scramble
star trek
berzerk

again, all the games are as complete as they ever were...

that's it....  email me if you're interested and if i get an 
offer i can't refuse, it's all yours...

-chris

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Subject: Re: Any Offers for My System & Stuff??
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Miguel Martin <stuntboy@ols.net> wrote:

sorry...my dorky friend changed my user name when he posted
elswhere and forgot to change it back..

i am indeed chris georgoulias

thanks...
-chris

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Was there ever a perfect translation of the first vector graphics arcade 
Star Wars game for the Vectrex? For some reason I think there was, but I 
never see it mentioned...

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From: woodcock@bnr.ca (Gregg Woodcock)
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KJ (kibwe@wpi.edu) wrote:
> Was there ever a perfect translation of the first vector graphics arcade 
> Star Wars game for the Vectrex? For some reason I think there was, but I 
> never see it mentioned...

That is because it was never done (or even considered as SW came out
around 1983 and the big "V" was dead by then).
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From: MAGAZINES 4 SALE! <rabies@scuzzy.fmmo.ca>
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Subject: Carts for trade!
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:35:27 -0400
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For trade:

Berzerk
Cosmic Chasm
Scramble

I will trade for OVERLAYS only! (and then if I can't find a trade, I 
guess I'll sell em. hehe)

Rabies@fmmo.ca


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From: at770@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Frank W. Wisner)
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Subject: Vectrex for sale or trade
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I have available a working Vectrex console, but no controller. I am looking
for the best offer or trade of at least $75.00 plus S&H. Please reply with
your offer of cash or what you would like to trade.

Frank

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From: anderse@academy.bastad.se (Anders Erlandsson)
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For all you VECTREX fans i have uploaded a nice render of our
favourite machine to: Aminet pix/trace.

Tell me if i should upload it somwhere else too.


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Anders Erlandsson (anderse@academy.bastad.se) wrote:
: For all you VECTREX fans i have uploaded a nice render of our
: favourite machine to: Aminet pix/trace.


And what/where is Aminet pix/trace?


: Tell me if i should upload it somwhere else too.


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From: Daniel Grivicic <DGRI2@CFS02.cc.monash.edu.au>
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Subject: Vectrex: For Sale
Date: 11 Sep 1995 02:27:43 GMT
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In a local newspaper I saw an add for a vectrex + 12 games in good 
condition. I can't remember the phone number the price was AUS$ 250.
If interested mail me. I'll post contact number later. The box is in 
Australia though.

Daniel.



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From: vsp@unix2.netaxs.com (have clue--will travel)
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Subject: Homebrew light pen project?
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It's become clear that for me to obtain a light pen any time soon, I'll
have to give up my automobile and 51% of the rights to my firstborn child.
The child, maybe, but I like my car, so that's no good.

In the Vectrex FAQ, the possibility of a homemade Vec light pen is mentioned,
but I have yet to find any specifications or plans for building such a beast.
Anybody got some tips for me?

			jeff.  the EPROM burner should be on the way soon,
			   so parts shouldn't be a major problem.

-- 
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Subject: re: Homebrew light pen project?
Date: 11 Sep 1995 16:55:33 GMT
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vsp@unix2.netaxs.com writes:
> ...In the Vectrex FAQ, the possibility of a homemade Vec light pen is
> mentioned, but I have yet to find any specifications or plans...

Check out the Vectrex archives. A schematic is posted there! This schematic
is not the 'official' light pen but is reported to work fine (the idea
is pretty simple: simulate a button push when the pen senses a point of
light). This circuit was submitted by tony <ard@siva.bris.ac.uk>.

ftp://ftp.csus.edu/pub/vectrex/lightpen.txt

    John F. Sandhoff, University Network Support
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Quite a long time ago (longer than I'm willing to admit), Fred Taft
submitted disassembly listings for the Vectrex executive ROM as well
as Art Master, Berzerk, Mine Storm, and Star Castle. I'm pleased to
announce that these listings (as well as a little perl hack by Jason
Barkdull (the Jaybird) used to clean up disassemblies) are finally
available on the Vectrex archives. Check the directory:

   ftp://ftp.csus.edu/pub/vectrex/disassembled


    John F. Sandhoff, University Network Support
      California State University Sacramento
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vsp@unix2.netaxs.com (have clue--will travel) writes:


>It's become clear that for me to obtain a light pen any time soon, I'll
>have to give up my automobile and 51% of the rights to my firstborn child.
>The child, maybe, but I like my car, so that's no good.

>In the Vectrex FAQ, the possibility of a homemade Vec light pen is mentioned,
>but I have yet to find any specifications or plans for building such a beast.
>Anybody got some tips for me?

I'm pretty sure the ascii-art schematic of my homebrew light pen is on 
the ftp site (ftp.csus.edu). It should be a starting point for your design.

All the lightpen does is give an active low pulse to SW4 on the second 
joystick port when it receives light. The rest is all done in software. I 
found that artmaster was about the best cartridge to test the lightpen with.



>			jeff.  the EPROM burner should be on the way soon,
>			   so parts shouldn't be a major problem.

-tony


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From: paetzel@ix.netcom.com (Karl Paetzel )
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Subject: WANTED: Multicart, testimonials, controller
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I am NEW to this newsgroup but a proud owner of a Vectrex.

MULTICARTS/TESTIMONIALS...  Can anyone give me advice on what the best
multicarts are and how/where I can get one?
(Sean Kelly,  are you out there?)

CONTROLLER...  I am also interested in a working joystick.

All responses appreciated.

Karl Paetzel
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paetzel@ix.netcom.com (Karl Paetzel ) wrote:

>I am NEW to this newsgroup but a proud owner of a Vectrex.

>MULTICARTS/TESTIMONIALS...  Can anyone give me advice on what the best
>multicarts are and how/where I can get one?
>(Sean Kelly,  are you out there?)

I have one of Sean Kelly's new, menu-selectable multicarts, and it
compares very favorably to the older and what may be impossible to buy
Woodward (is this right?) menu based multicart mentioned in the
Vectrex FAQ. While Sean's is slightly more expensive (70 bucks vs.
50), I still consider it a good value, since its the only cart you'll
ever need.

I only have had 1 problem with it: occasionally, the "pause" switch
will not "un-pause" the paused game, so I have to reset the machine.
It only occurs very rarely, and it doesn't seem to follow a pattern.
Its a small price to pay, methinks.

Plus there's the problem inherant to all multicarts: you don't get
overlays. I can live without them just fine, but the 3D goggles (if
you ever find a set) can't. You just have to decide how important this
is to you.

Now for the good things about Sean Kelly's multicart:

1. It fits inside a regular cartridge case - no exposed circuit boards
here!

2. It has all the games (3D and lightpen too except for 1 LP game),
diagnostics, and even some home-brewed "games" all in 1 cart.

3. It has the "Dark Tower" game, which was apparently never released
but was ready for sale.

4. The main chip is SOCKETED inside the cart, so any upgrades or bug
fixes (which are free or nominally priced, BTW) should be turned
around quickly. This has apparently been a major headache with the
other multicarts.

The last e-mail address I have for him is skelly@xnet.com, so check it
out.

Virtually,
Warr

5. You can get it within a month (while I personally know someone who
waited 19 MONTHS for another multicart to arrive): I sent off a check
to Sean and two weeks later, I had my multicart. 

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Hi!

I finally found a 3D game to go with my goggles (yes, I've had the 
goggles for a few years, but no games!).  Unfortunately it didn't come 
with a color wheel.  

I've tried making my own based on the info in the archives, but it 
doesn't seem to work.  I thought maybe someone out there would have a 
suggestion...here goes:

I printed out a replica of the wheel on a color laser printer using 
transparency material.  Printed out multiple copies of the "Hub" on heavy 
card stock, then cut out about six copies of the hub and glued the whole 
mess together:  Three cardstock hubs, the transparency wheel in the 
middle, then three more cardstock hubs.  I cut the sync hole and 
center "hole" (it's actually a square) through everything with an xacto 
knife. (I only cut the one synch hole, although the drawing shows two.  
The one time I actually saw and held a real color wheel I noticed it only 
had one thru hole, the other "hole" was really just a depression in the 
plastic).

Anyways, popped it into the goggles, fired up the game, and it spins and 
spins and spins...but nothing appears on the screen.  Any suggestions?  
If I can get it to work I'll post a bit clearer set of instructions to 
the archives!  I'm sooooooo close.  I just know it.

If it matters the game is Narrow Escape...anyone have a spare wheel they 
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Hi
	Is that truly be able to display by HeNe-laser gears?
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GA> I have the following Vectrex games for sale.
GA> All are in good condition (no label scratches).
GA> 
GA> Armor..Attack  Cart/Overlay              $10

HELLO, i would like to buy the armor attack game if you still have it, 
please let me know via email. THANKS

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Last Sunday Night, Spahn Ranch, the up and coming LA based Hard Tek band
played a amazing show at Phili nught Club The Asylum.  There is Strong
evidence that a member of the audience murdered a young women and a 2 year
old child a few  hour before the show. The Asylum, Spahn Ranch and The
Electric Hellfire Club are now beeing questioned about the incidences of that
night. News Reports called the guy a "vampire" because of the brutalness of
the murders. The mans alibi for the many scratches on his face was that he
had been mossing at Spahn Ranch.......Or was it a plot by Spahn Ranch and the
Electric Hellfire Club to turn their audience members into blood thirsty
killers!!!! Spahn Ranchand Electric Hellfire Club could not be reached for a
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cleopatra (cleopatra@cyberden.com) wrote in rec.games.vectrex:
>Last Sunday Night, Spahn Ranch, the up and coming LA based Hard Tek band
>played a amazing show at Phili nught Club The Asylum.  There is Strong
>evidence that a member of the audience murdered a young women and a 2 year
>old child a few  hour before the show. The Asylum, Spahn Ranch and The
>Electric Hellfire Club are now beeing questioned about the incidences of that
>night. News Reports called the guy a "vampire" because of the brutalness of
                                      ^^^^^^^^^
BTW, YM "VECTREX". HTH!

>the murders. The mans alibi for the many scratches on his face was that he
>had been mossing at Spahn Ranch.......Or was it a plot by Spahn Ranch and the
>Electric Hellfire Club to turn their audience members into blood thirsty
>killers!!!! Spahn Ranchand Electric Hellfire Club could not be reached for a
>statement. 

("Cyberden"??? If I wasn't so lazy I'd *plonk* the whole site right now.)

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> Last Sunday Night, Spahn Ranch, the up and coming LA based Hard Tek band
> played a amazing show at Phili nught Club The Asylum.  There is Strong
> evidence that a member of the audience murdered a young women and a 2
> year old child a few  hour before the show. The Asylum, Spahn Ranch and
> The Electric Hellfire Club are now beeing questioned about the
> incidences of that night. News Reports called the guy a "vampire"
> because of the brutalness of the murders. The mans alibi for the many
> scratches on his face was that he had been mossing at Spahn
> Ranch.......Or was it a plot by Spahn Ranch and the Electric Hellfire
> Club to turn their audience members into blood thirsty killers!!!! Spahn
> Ranchand Electric Hellfire Club could not be reached for a statement. 

You guys should really get a column in the World Weekly News.

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Hi, on 10 Sep 1995 16:42:30 GMT, Joe Venturelli (jav@mercury.interpath.net) wrote:

 >Anders Erlandsson (anderse@academy.bastad.se) wrote:
 >: For all you VECTREX fans i have uploaded a nice render of our
 >: favourite machine to: Aminet pix/trace.

 >And what/where is Aminet pix/trace?

It's a group of Amiga FTP sights.  You can find one of the mirrors on 
aminet.com in the directory pub/aminet

 >: Tell me if i should upload it somwhere else too.

Well, aminet is for Amiga stuff, not Vectrex, but I won't complane :)

DarkWolf

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I'm interested in buying a Vectrex system and a few games.  SF 
Bay Area sellers preferred.

Please e-mail me with info.  Thanks.
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From: wrsquire@br.itc.hp.com (#Roger Squire )
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OK just thought I'd share my newest acquisition with you all :-)

I live just outside London in the UK, and went to see my Parents who live
in South Wales.  Sitting in their living room I browsed through a copy 
of Free-Ads, (My Dad was looking for a car trailer), and there it was
Vectrex Computer with Monitor & 7 Cartidges 30ukp ($45), I rang, he still 
had it, I said I'd be right over.  When I turned up, he asked do you know
what a Vectrex is? I said, Oh a little black thing about so by so.  He said
most kids these days only want Snes & Sega, but these things were cool, just
like the arcades (early 1980's).  He'd bought it new :-), but it didn't come
with any boxes, just the Unit & the cartidges :-) He talked enthusiastically
about it for 15mins, and insisted on showing it to me working. (I would have
taken it even if it wasn't!) So now I have 2! and 16 Cartidges :-)

My Newest Purchase consisted of :

1 Vectrex Unix with slight Cigarette Burn on Top, but controller looks like new

7 Cartridges :

Scramble
Fortress of Narzod
Clean Sweep
Cosmic Chasem
Spike
Bedlam
Starship

Ho Hum Happy me....

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Regards

--Roger 

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From: franky@dbis.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (Frank Buddrus)
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In article <43jo9l$4d8@hpwin055.uksr.hp.com>, wrsquire@br.itc.hp.com (#Roger Squire ) writes:
|> 
|> OK just thought I'd share my newest acquisition with you all :-)

I'll join you.

|> 
|> I live just outside London in the UK, and went to see my Parents who live
|> in South Wales.  Sitting in their living room I browsed through a copy 
|> of Free-Ads, (My Dad was looking for a car trailer), and there it was
|> Vectrex Computer with Monitor & 7 Cartidges 30ukp ($45), I rang, he still 

This Saturday I strolled over a fleemarket when I suddenly saw this black box
-working (electricity on the fleemarket, hehe)- I asked for the price. It was
40,-DM (around $30). A short bargain and I got it for 35,-DM. Hiphip ...


|> had it, I said I'd be right over.  When I turned up, he asked do you know
|> what a Vectrex is? I said, Oh a little black thing about so by so.  He said
|> most kids these days only want Snes & Sega, but these things were cool, just
|> like the arcades (early 1980's).  He'd bought it new :-), but it didn't come
|> with any boxes, just the Unit & the cartidges :-) He talked enthusiastically
|> about it for 15mins, and insisted on showing it to me working. (I would have
|> taken it even if it wasn't!) So now I have 2! and 16 Cartidges :-)

Before I paid I asked for cards. He answered: "Sorry, I don't have them, but
it is really no problem. You can find lots here on the fleemarket :-)"

(I've never seen any Vectrex card on any fleemarket here in Germany.)

|> 
|> My Newest Purchase consisted of :
|> 
[...]

Unit + Controller (perfect condition) + card "Berzerk"

|> 
|> Ho Hum Happy me....
|> 
[...]

Frank.

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Since we get to brag, I've picked up 2 in the last 5 weeks. One for $35 
at a Savation Army store and another at the local swap meet for $5 
this past Saturday. Both work fine but the weird thing is that both 
have a little warpage at the same spot on the right side?? Anyone know 
why? Oh, no carts came with either system.  BTW I'll apologize to everyone 
about my sale 2 weeks ago. (Sorry!) My school's network went down and corrupted
my mail box and lost everything. Oh well
Gaymond Lee

#Roger Squire (wrsquire@br.itc.hp.com) wrote:

: OK just thought I'd share my newest acquisition with you all :-)

: I live just outside London in the UK, and went to see my Parents who live
: in South Wales.  Sitting in their living room I browsed through a copy 
: of Free-Ads, (My Dad was looking for a car trailer), and there it was
: Vectrex Computer with Monitor & 7 Cartidges 30ukp ($45), I rang, he still 
: had it, I said I'd be right over.  When I turned up, he asked do you know
: what a Vectrex is? I said, Oh a little black thing about so by so.  He said
: most kids these days only want Snes & Sega, but these things were cool, just
: like the arcades (early 1980's).  He'd bought it new :-), but it didn't come
: with any boxes, just the Unit & the cartidges :-) He talked enthusiastically
: about it for 15mins, and insisted on showing it to me working. (I would have
: taken it even if it wasn't!) So now I have 2! and 16 Cartidges :-)

: My Newest Purchase consisted of :

: 1 Vectrex Unix with slight Cigarette Burn on Top, but controller looks like new

: 7 Cartridges :

: Scramble
: Fortress of Narzod
: Clean Sweep
: Cosmic Chasem
: Spike
: Bedlam
: Starship

: Ho Hum Happy me....

: -
: Regards

: --Roger 

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: *                                             ********  /_/ /_// ____/   *******
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>Hi, on 10 Sep 1995 16:42:30 GMT, Joe Venturelli (jav@mercury.interpath.net)
>wrote:

> >Anders Erlandsson (anderse@academy.bastad.se) wrote:
> >: For all you VECTREX fans i have uploaded a nice render of our
> >: favourite machine to: Aminet pix/trace.

> >And what/where is Aminet pix/trace?

>It's a group of Amiga FTP sights.  You can find one of the mirrors on 
>aminet.com in the directory pub/aminet

Try "ftp.wustl.edu" in /pub/amiga/pix/real3/ or 
    "ftp.luth.se" in /pub/amiga/pix/real3/



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Subject: Re: Yes! Yes! YES!... I got another one :-)
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In our last episode, wrsquire@br.itc.hp.com (#Roger Squire ) said:

>1 Vectrex Unix with slight Cigarette Burn on Top, but controller looks like new

I've actually been looking for a Vectrex Unix. Then I could _really_ play
Space War.

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There seems to be quite a bit less traffic in this group than my last visit 
(now that I actually have money). Hopefully someone out there can still help 
me out. I am interested in buying a working Vectrex unit with a few carts to 
get me started. (Just one of those things I always wanted in my youth and 
could never afford.) Would like to hear from anyone from British Columbia, 
Canada; Washington; or Oregon (preferably e-mail).

Thanks,
Sean (venomous@venomous.seanet.com)


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In our last episode, wrsquire@br.itc.hp.com (#Roger Squire ) said:

>1 Vectrex Unix with slight Cigarette Burn on Top, but controller looks like new

I've actually been looking for a Vectrex Unix. Then I could _really_ play
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> On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Bob Poniatowski wrote:
>
> I printed out a replica of the wheel on a color laser printer using 
> transparency material.  Printed out multiple copies of the "Hub" on heavy 
> card stock, then cut out about six copies of the hub and glued the whole 
> mess together, popped it into the goggles, fired up the game, and it spins
> and spins and spins...but nothing appears on the screen.  Any suggestions?  

Somebody help this guy...somebody help all of us!
Has anyone made working color wheels?  Better yet, has anyone made a 3-D 
Imager?  Oh you have?, okay genius...please post some instructions then.

Now, for those of you with the 3-D Imagers...could you please describe their
3-D effect?  Is it cool, better than the Virtual Boy?!  (A Viewmaster is 
better than Virtual Boy!)

Later,
Dave
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On 20 Sep 1995, David Kim wrote:

> > On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Bob Poniatowski wrote:
> >
> > I printed out a replica of the wheel on a color laser printer using 
> > transparency material.  Printed out multiple copies of the "Hub" on heavy 
> > card stock, then cut out about six copies of the hub and glued the whole 
> > mess together, popped it into the goggles, fired up the game, and it spins
> > and spins and spins...but nothing appears on the screen.  Any suggestions?  
> 
> Somebody help this guy...somebody help all of us!
> Has anyone made working color wheels?  Better yet, has anyone made a 3-D 
> Imager?  Oh you have?, okay genius...please post some instructions then.

Sorry,no! But I have made a light pen,before I picked one up...
(I can post instructions if needed)
A friend of mine loaned me his 3-D imager,and the effect was, well...
o.k.ish...it added color to the display too... score in blue,ship+rocks in 
green, explosions in red, etc.
(this unit may not have been working properly...the motor seemed to hunt 
speed a lot...)
I did find a way to get 3-D games to run without the imager though,
if you plug a controller into port 2, and bash away at the "4" button,
after 1-2 minutes(be patient) the game will start running-s l o w l y-
every tap on the button will "flash" one frame on the screen,the sound if 
playing will advance to the next step,etc.
The "4" button must be hooked up to a photocell that reads light through the 
hole in the disk,triggering the vectrex every revolution!
The problem above MUST be the photocell and disk hole are not lined up...
I think you could build a oscillator(about 10 Hz??) and pulse the "4" 
button to play without glasses! 
Just my rambling,
    Aaron

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In article <Pine.OSF.3.91j.950921004950.5100D-100000@saul3.u.washington.edu>,
William Howald  <howald@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>I think you could build a oscillator(about 10 Hz??) and pulse the "4" 
>button to play without glasses! 
>Just my rambling,
>    Aaron

And then if you  alternately blink your right eye and then your
left eye at the right frequency you will get the 3d -effect  :-)

But seriously, I might have a friend that can duplicate the colour
wheels.
who would be interested in getting a colour wheel
replacement if it worked properly?

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In article <Pine.3.89.9509202300.A23657-0100000@corn.cso.niu.edu> David
Kim, z931205@corn.cso.niu.edu writes:
>> On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Bob Poniatowski wrote:
>>
>> I printed out a replica of the wheel on a color laser printer using 
>> transparency material.  Printed out multiple copies of the "Hub" on
heavy 
>> card stock, then cut out about six copies of the hub and glued the
whole 
>> mess together, popped it into the goggles, fired up the game, and it
spins
>> and spins and spins...but nothing appears on the screen.  Any
suggestions?  
>
>Somebody help this guy...somebody help all of us!
>Has anyone made working color wheels?  Better yet, has anyone made a 3-D 
>Imager?  Oh you have?, okay genius...please post some instructions then.
>
>Now, for those of you with the 3-D Imagers...could you please describe
their
>3-D effect?  Is it cool, better than the Virtual Boy?!  (A Viewmaster is 
>better than Virtual Boy!)

Bob, when you put the hub together, did you include the hole? As I
recall, there 
is a hole in the wheel somewhere which is probably for timing.

I haven't tried Virtual Boy, but I do think the 3-D effect isn't that
great.
The 3-d Mine Storm looks the best, taking place on 3 layers--you only
interact with the top layer. I also have the escape game and the roller 
coaster game, in which you have to judge the distance to certain objects
and dodge them.  I found this very hard, as the 3-D effect just isn't that
precise. Wish I had 3-D Pole Position--I have the 2-D version and it was
one of my favorites.

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Subject: Vectex wanted in UK
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Does anyone have or know were I can get my hands on a Vectrex system,
preferably in the uk.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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I really didn't find much today when I went out game-hunting.  The yard sales
I visited had nothing, the fleas had a boxed 2600 Spike's/Ghost double-ender
and boxed 2600 Moonsweeper and little else, and a friendly dealer promised
to save a TurboGrafx for me.  So what's the big deal?

This morning, while I was wiped out from a long night's work (gotta hate
night shift), my dad went out to get a cup of coffee and a newspaper.  As
he went down our street, he noticed a yard sale _four houses away_ from
our house.  Hmmm, he thought.  That guy's got a little television for sale.

Little television?  Wait, that screen's vertically aligned, not horizontal.

He made another pass.  Is that a 'V' on the front?  Maybe it's...

...yep, it was.  A Vectrex console, in very nice shape.  Here's an oddity;
the text on the title screens is a little shaky, and on my Sean Kelly 
multi-cart most of the titles in the menu are crooked; this does not happen
with my 'other' Vectrex and that cart ($70 last I checked, a very nice 
addition to the home, plug plug plug).  Yet when I start playing any games,
the screen is aligned nicely, and nothing appears warped or abnormal.

One button on the controller (button 3) was also a little intermittent, but
it seems to be coming around nicely now.

Anyway, he asked what the guy wanted for it.  "Five bucks" was the answer.
"Does it work?"  "Yeah."  Figuring that, at worst, he'd be buying a dead Vec
with a Blitz cart sticking out of it, he snagged it for me.

Oh yes -- the guy put another box on top and said "Oh, these go with it."
Inside were Spinball, Heads Up Soccer, Fortress of Narzod, Star Trek, Berzerk,
Web Wars, Armor...Attack, Hyperchase, Cosmic Chasm, Scramble, and Clean Sweep.

It's not every day that I can pick up a Vectrex + 12 carts without even
being awake...

		jeff.  no light pen or imager, of course.  he's lucky, not
		    	a magician...
	

-- 
--- If you look very, very closely, you can see Edward R. Murrow. ---
http://www.netaxs.com/~vsp/ -- the usual array of cartlists and crap.
"We came / We peed / We conquered / You'll bleed" -- JB/L
"HELLO KITTY gang terrorizes town, family STICKERED to death!" -- BG

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Hi all..I have a vectrex system with 18 games..bought it in 1984 for $50 and games $5 each..I'm only 
missing these:

Space Wars
Any 3-D glasses & games
Pole Position

Maybe 1 or 2 others but, if anyone can is willing to sell let me know.

PS I have 2 joysticks, and this is the only system my friends come over and play.  I can't believe how well 
the system has held up unlike my Intellivision , Colecovision, 2600/5200/7800/Sega/Nintendo/Aquarius 
etc...

It's still a lot of fun!!!


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I just found this place, what a cool spot.  I've only ever seen three 
vectrex's in my life and two of them I own.  Didn't know there were 
others of you out there.  Just looking through a few posts - 3-D games no 
way!  Somebody tell me what the 3-D games are, I didn't get any with my 
setup.  I probably have about a dozen games and they all seem 2-D to me.

Everyone I ever show them to say that they are the first they have ever 
seen.  The interchangeable templates really turn them on.  I'm sure I 
sound pretty dumb here, but I really didn't know there was a following.  
I just collect old video games, and I happened upon this one about four 
years ago at a garage sale.  I don't think the thing was ever really 
marketed out here on the West Coast.  Any new information on this great 
game setup would be super.  My favorite game is ripoff, with 2 players 
that is.

Finding this made my day.  That and the fact that the M's are in first by 
two games.

---GO MARINERS---

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=I really didn't find much today when I went out game-hunting.  The yard
sales
=I visited had nothing, the fleas had a boxed 2600 Spike's/Ghost
double-ender
=and boxed 2600 Moonsweeper and little else

Their is a electronics clearance store in those factory outlet malls
called Famous Brand Electronics. They have an Atari 2600 with about 30
cartridges for right around $30.


Jim Kajpust - Personal Freedoms - Michigan

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Jim of oz (jimofoz@aol.com) wrote in rec.games.video.classic:
>=I really didn't find much today when I went out game-hunting.  The yard
>sales
>=I visited had nothing, the fleas had a boxed 2600 Spike's/Ghost
>double-ender
>=and boxed 2600 Moonsweeper and little else

>Their is a electronics clearance store in those factory outlet malls
>called Famous Brand Electronics. They have an Atari 2600 with about 30
>cartridges for right around $30.

I think they ran out a couple of months ago, but I need to drive up and 
check again.  I need to check out those thrift stores in New Braunfels 
and San Marcos again, anyhow.

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"A. Kurlychek" <kurly@u.washington.edu> wrote:

>I just found this place, what a cool spot.  I've only ever seen three 
>vectrex's in my life and two of them I own.  Didn't know there were 
>others of you out there.  Just looking through a few posts - 3-D games no 
>way!  Somebody tell me what the 3-D games are, I didn't get any with my 
>setup.  I probably have about a dozen games and they all seem 2-D to me.

>Everyone I ever show them to say that they are the first they have ever 
>seen.  The interchangeable templates really turn them on.  I'm sure I 
>sound pretty dumb here, but I really didn't know there was a following.  
>I just collect old video games, and I happened upon this one about four 
>years ago at a garage sale.  I don't think the thing was ever really 
>marketed out here on the West Coast.  Any new information on this great 
>game setup would be super.  My favorite game is ripoff, with 2 players 
>that is.

>Finding this made my day.  That and the fact that the M's are in first by 
>two games.

>---GO MARINERS---

Hey, this group was never "lost" - har har.

Seriously though,

This group is pretty cool, but it's been really slow as of late.
Just sale and wanted ads. I myself have a Vectrex and hope to have
another soon. A friend has one but he won't go down on the price (I
stupidly told him what it was worth).

I have a project on the back burner right now for the Vectrex.
Basically, I am going to get an EPROM Emulator for the system and
write my own game. I haven't decided how I'll even market it right
now. Money's been really tight around the house for the last few
months so I haven't been able to purchase the equipment that I
need for the project.

The game itself will be a Space Invaders clone. I'm converting the
code from my old 6502 apple version to 6809. I imagine I'll sell the
game for around $20.

But again, it's on the back burner. I really have to get a real job.



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From: magundi@csd.uwo.ca (John MacDonald)
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Vectrex trade/sale list

Sept. 24 1995

Surprise surprise, I have once again had e-mail problems.
The disk at this system that contains the mail spool crashed,
and there were no backups.  I lost 1.5 months of unread mail
and additional 3 months of mail.

If you have written to me in the last 4.5 months and haven't
heard back, please write again.


First, what I don't have.

I don't have any 3-D stuff or Light Pen stuff that I am willing to part with.
Unless you have $1000 burning a hole in your pocket.
( imager, crazy coaster, narrow escape,
  light pen, Art Master, Melody Master, Animaction )  but seriously.  :-)


What's here.

A couple of vectrex consoles.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Bonus:  I will include a Dark Tower Cartridge with a Vectrex
        or a Multi-cartridge or any purchase over $60.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Vectrex $160

Each Vectrex is in good working condition, and has a good working
joystick, each has a MineStorm manual, overlay, and Vectrex manual

*******************************************************************

I have some new and used cartridges,
nothing very rare, I will post a list of them next week.
$8-$40 depending on rarity and condition



*******************************************************************

Multi-cartridge ( 32 options- all released games except Animaction )
$50		  
	Bonus:	As mentioned above, I will include a Dark Tower cartridge.

Photocopy of all manuals
$10           This just basically covers my costs. 

Service manual 
Free with any other purchase ( if requested )
$4

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Details, details.

Prices, while not engraved in stone, are fairly firm.
Vectrex price is firm.  If you feel my prices are too high,
just drive down to your local Wal-Mart and buy the stuff there.  :-)
I am always interested in trades.  See below for what I am looking
for.


Payment must be made in advance in the form of a Money Order.
US Postal money order is preferred, bank money orders acceptable.
US bank cheques, three weeks to clear.
All prices are US dollars.

Shipping

$20 for a Vectrex shipped Canada Post, insured, to anywhere in
the US or Canada.  No extra cost for shipping cartridges with a vectrex.
To Europe or Down Under shipping cost would probably be about $40-$50
Surface mail.

Cartridges

1-2	$5
3+	$6

All vectrex items will be sent Canada Post insured.
It is not possible to send things COD to the States from Canada.

I will send stuff UPS or FedEx, but the high cost of shipping just
isn't worth while as far as I am concerned.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Trade information


I would prefer trades, but to avoid the auction crap, the first
cash offer for equipment at my asking price will get it.
Offers of trade or less cash than my asking price I will think about.

I am interested in trades of most kinds.
Mostly computer/electronics equipment.
I am not interested in computer games in general, or other video game
systems, especially older systems.

If you are interested in trading please indicate what you want to
trade for what. An approximiate value of the items you are offering
as trades would be greatly appreciated.


Things that I am interested in.

486 Motherboard with CPU
486 CPU
Eprom programmer
Amiga CDTV
CDTV accesories.
Amiga 1200 accesories
CD-32
SouthWestern Bell Freedom Phone  ( Model FT383 )  
Pentax Super Program camera.
Double-speed ( or faster ) CD-ROM, with sound card or interface.
SCSI or IDE hard drives.
Mac Hardware
	SE/30 Motherboards
	MAC II 68040 accelerator
	1024x768 75Hz Video card NuBus or SE/30
	NuBus Serial Card
	Other Mac toys.	
Simm's.  1Mx8/9  4Mx8/9  any speed.  72 pin simm's with or without parity 
Other Mac/IBM hardware.
Local-Bus Video card or other Local-Bus cards.
PCI boards


I am currently looking for the following vectrex stuff:

Star Castle	overlay
Heads Up Soccer	everything
Star Ship	everything
Melody Master	box in perfect condition
3D Narrow	box
3D Crazy	manual, box
3D minestorm	manual, box, cart
3D imager	box
Polar Rescue	everything

or any 3D or lightpen stuff.


john macdonald
magundi@uwo.ca
(519) 432-9697 



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 place among the countries of the globe.  Our borders
 have been pictured in the abode of perpetual snows,
 and our people as indifferent, easy-going, indolent.
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magundi@csd.uwo.ca (John MacDonald) wrote:

>Prices, while not engraved in stone, are fairly firm.
>Vectrex price is firm.  If you feel my prices are too high,
>just drive down to your local Wal-Mart and buy the stuff there.  :-)
>I am always interested in trades.  See below for what I am looking
>for.

Before you get too cocky, anyone here *can* go to Jerry Greiner, the
WalMart of classic systems, and buy a Vectrex & multicart for a little
more than you're selling the unit alone for.

Just thought I 'd point that out...

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From: wernst@deltanet.com (Warren 'Llama' Ernst)
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Subject: Brought my Vectrex to an Arcade Auction...
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All,

Here's a refreshing change from the recent dearth of "forsale" posts:

I collect full size arcade games -- you know, the ones that are the
size of a 'fridge and gobble quarters? Ok, well, one of the more
popular methods of acquiring these games is to go to game auctions,
which in Southern California is an 8 hour, semi boring affair at
times. You can generally count on at least an hour or more being spent
on change machines, redemption machines, ski-balls, and other
non-interesting machines.

So I bring along my Vectrex with 2 controllers and a single
multi-cart, expecting to blow the minds of whoever passes by. Well, we
had quite a few people ask "What is that?", "How much do you want for
it?", and "Did that just say 'Copyright 1982'?" We played "tourneys"
of Space Wars and Rip Off for almost an hour. 

In the process, I think I "sold" about 4 multicarts to people who have
Vectrexes sitting in dusty closets (you should be getting calls,
Sean), and completely blew the minds of the auction employees, many of
whom repeatedly told me that there was to be no playing of the
merchandise until the auction was over. They thought it was a
commercial unit!

Virtually,
Warr
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From: punkboy@U.washington.edu (Greg Samson)
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Subject: WANTED: Vectrex multicart / additional controller
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I've been hearing a lot about multicarts for the Vectrex.  Where can I
get one?

As well, does anyone know about a source for spare controllers?  (Or a
way to convert a different joystick or pad to work with a Vectrex?)

Please E-MAIL me replies!  Thanks for your attention!

---
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From: vsp@unix3.netaxs.com (have clue--will travel)
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Subject: An odd Vectrex problem.
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My second Vectrex was in better condition than the first, with one minor
exception.  There's an interesting problem with the way certain things
are drawn...

Now, for the most part, this Vectrex is perfect that way.  I ran every game
on the multi-cart through its paces, and the display seemed perfectly normal
during gameplay (with one exception so far, which will follow).  The only
thing I noticed was that text was sometimes a bit fuzzy and slanted, as if
italicized.  The menu on Sean-s multi-cart was most affected; while still
quite readable, it was quite light and slanted, which never happened on
Vectrex #1.  I ran Minestorm, Mike's Molecules, and other graphic torture 
tests on it with no major problems.

So I stuck in Scramble, which looked fine, until Screen 5 (the narrow tunnels).
The lines of the tunnel, which should be parallel, were crooked!  The top 
of the tunnel slanted downwards and to the right until the two were nearly
touching.  This occured on tunnels on several parts of the screen (top, bottom,
whatever), so it's not a localized problem.  The tunnels were, of course,
as large as they were supposed to be (I flew right through the crooked lines,
but if I moved upwards where the wall was supposed to be, I crashed).  Once
I got out of the tunnels and got to the Base screen, everything was
normal again.

So, what's the deal here?  Scramble works fine on my other Vectrex, and this
happened with both original-cart and multi-cart versions, so it's not the
cartridge at fault.  Other games with parallel horizontal lines (Clean Sweep,
Armor...Attack, etc.) don't show this problem.  Other games with _moving_
horizonal parallel lines (let's say, the Mike's Molecules demo with nine
of 'em running around at varying sizes and brightness levels) showed no
problems.  I have to think that it's something very minor, but I'm at a loss
as to what to look for.

		jeff.  maybe it's just lonely, and wants 3-D goggles for
			company.  send 'em over, and we'll test this theory.




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It works just like a newspaper classified advertising
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From: woodcock@bnr.ca (Gregg Woodcock)
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have clue--will travel (vsp@unix3.netaxs.com) wrote:
> My second Vectrex was in better condition than the first, with one minor
> exception.  There's an interesting problem with the way certain things
> are drawn...

If you open up your unit, there are 2 potentionmeters on the bottom
board.  One controls the size of the screen (controls both X-size and
Y-size proportionally at the same time) and the other controls the
amount of "slanting".  I forget which is which but you can figure it
out.
--
THANX...Gregg   day 214.684.7380  night UNLIST/PUBL   TEXAS NOT CANADA!
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*CLASSIC VIDEOGAME COLLECTOR BUY/SELL/TRADE NON-COMPUTER (ARCADE/HOME)*
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Subject: MP Games September/October Auction
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 MP GAMES OCT AUCTION *****26-52-78-CV-02-INTV-NES-C64-CVIC20-AT8-ATARI
ST-
HANDHELDS- VECTREX !!! MORE!
******************************************
Auction ends:  Wednesday October 4,1995 at 12:00 Noon EST
****************************************

General Rules and Mumbo Jumbo
-----------------------------------------
a. ALL items shipped only after payment, trade recieved... NO EXCEPTIONS!
b. UNITED STATES ORDERS ONLY PLEASE
c. Items are in good shape for the most part, though some boxed games may
not be in that great a shape. please inquire about condition. 
d. Minimum bids are minimum bids, y'dig?
e. limit of two of each item per customer
f. minimum bid increases : 25c on itmes under $1.00 ,  50c on items $1-$10

and $1.00 on items over $15.00
g. We are looking for trades! MAKE AN OFFER!
h. Thanks to certain people who never send stuff on a timely manner, you
know
who you are, I will insist that all payments and trades be recieved by me
within 10 days of the auction's end. ( OCTOBER 14 1995 )  failure to do
this
will result in being permanentely banned from auctioning with me again! NO
EXCEPTIONS!
i. please do not email the entire post if you want to be added to the
mailing
list
j. updates will be published frequently as the volume of bids makes
worthwhile
   all bidders will receiev updates along with anyone who requests them

------------------------------------------------
Here is my address:

Michael Palisano
2 Rock Ridge Drive
Norwalk, CT 06854

Phone: 1-203-866-5946
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-------------------Shipping Fees
Instructions/Manuals/ Catalogs

$0.50 for first
$0.25 for each extra

Loose cartridges:
$1.00 for first title
$0.50  for each additional

Boxed Cartridges
$2.00 for first title 
$1.00 for each additional

MINIMUM SHIPPING : $3.00

------------------------------------------------
----------------------------Auction Format: 
 
quantity ----> 1....... (maker)... . game title   $....    (MIn. bid
increment: $...) 
                           a. bidder's name    $bid

key 
-------------------- 1 cart BCIO 
B= Includes  Box
C= ......  Cartridge
I=   ..... Instructions
O= .....  Overlays
-----------------------------------

* I  will list all current bids and use real names, unless requested
otherwise

***************************
*******************Last minute additions!

Commodore 1702 rf composite monitor
Works... compatible with SNES, Genesis, Jaguar, Playstation, others
 in great shape  $80.00 ( winner pays $15.00 shipping)

*******  !!  GCE vectrex system
Works in great shape 
Missing controller $100.00 ( Winner pays $15.00 shipping)


Atari 2600 :
**********************
Atari blackjack no front label 6.00
flag capture black label 6.00
carnival coleco 5.00
venture coleco with instructions 6.00
spider fighter activision 6.00
breakaway IV sears 6.00
kangaroo 6.00
*******************************************


------------------------------------------------------------
------Intellivision Hardware 

******  1. Intellivision II Unit with intellivoice ***********
Includes all hookups, plus 2 carts (my choice)

Minimum Bid  $30.00   (winner pays $6.00 shipping).

2. Intelliviseion II unit bare

deck only no hookups or power supply included
includes 2 carts my choice  $15.00 ( Winner pays $5.00 shipping)


----------------------Intellivision loose games

MATTEL

3 NHL Hockey $1.50
4 NBA Basketball $1.50
5 NFL Football $1.50
2 Football $2.50
5 Armor Battle $1.50
1 Golf $1.50
4 Burgertime $1.50
2 Star Strike $1.50
5 Las Vegas Poker and Blackjack $0.50
1 Space Hawk $1.50
6 Astrosmash  $1.50
1 Baseball $2.50
4 ML Baseball $1.50
3 Space Battle $1.50
3 Boxing $1.50
3 Auto Racing $1.50
5 Lock N Chase $1.50
2 Sea Battle $1.50
5 Night Stalker $1.50
1 Sub Hunt $1.50
1 Tron Deadly Disks $2.00
1 Snafu $2.00
1 adv dungeons and dragons 2.00
2 sea battle 2.00
1 Tennis 2.50
1 las vegas roulette 5.00 
1 Nasl Soccer  2.00 
1 Pinball 6.00 
1 Horse Racing 3.00

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have clue--will travel (vsp@unix2.netaxs.com) wrote:
: I really didn't find much today when I went out game-hunting.  The yard sales
: I visited had nothing, the fleas had a boxed 2600 Spike's/Ghost double-ender
: and boxed 2600 Moonsweeper and little else, and a friendly dealer promised
: to save a TurboGrafx for me.  So what's the big deal?

: This morning, while I was wiped out from a long night's work (gotta hate
: night shift), my dad went out to get a cup of coffee and a newspaper.  As
: he went down our street, he noticed a yard sale _four houses away_ from
: our house.  Hmmm, he thought.  That guy's got a little television for sale.

: Little television?  Wait, that screen's vertically aligned, not horizontal.

: He made another pass.  Is that a 'V' on the front?  Maybe it's...

: ...yep, it was.  A Vectrex console, in very nice shape.  Here's an oddity;
: the text on the title screens is a little shaky, and on my Sean Kelly 
: multi-cart most of the titles in the menu are crooked; this does not happen
: with my 'other' Vectrex and that cart ($70 last I checked, a very nice 
: addition to the home, plug plug plug).  Yet when I start playing any games,
: the screen is aligned nicely, and nothing appears warped or abnormal.

: One button on the controller (button 3) was also a little intermittent, but
: it seems to be coming around nicely now.

: Anyway, he asked what the guy wanted for it.  "Five bucks" was the answer.
: "Does it work?"  "Yeah."  Figuring that, at worst, he'd be buying a dead Vec
: with a Blitz cart sticking out of it, he snagged it for me.

: Oh yes -- the guy put another box on top and said "Oh, these go with it."
: Inside were Spinball, Heads Up Soccer, Fortress of Narzod, Star Trek, Berzerk,
: Web Wars, Armor...Attack, Hyperchase, Cosmic Chasm, Scramble, and Clean Sweep.

: It's not every day that I can pick up a Vectrex + 12 carts without even
: being awake...

: 		jeff.  no light pen or imager, of course.  he's lucky, not
: 		    	a magician...
: 	

: -- 
: --- If you look very, very closely, you can see Edward R. Murrow. ---
: http://www.netaxs.com/~vsp/ -- the usual array of cartlists and crap.
: "We came / We peed / We conquered / You'll bleed" -- JB/L
: "HELLO KITTY gang terrorizes town, family STICKERED to death!" -- BG

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!@#$@!$##E%!@#$%^@#$^@#

Isle
isle@mgl.ca

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Subject: Fun with Vectrex..
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Okay, so how much are vectrexes worth?

Anyway, to the poster who wanted to know more about the 3-d games..

The vectrex had optional accessories: a light pen (which I have yet to see) and 3-d glasses (I 
remember as a kid seeing them at Toys R Us, but I didn't have a Vectrex at the time).  I think they look 
like virtual reality glasses and they came with 3-D Mine Storm.  There was also a 3-d roller coaster 
game, and one other 3-D game..(fellow posters, help me out here).

I have found that a Vectrex joystick buttons will work on  a Sega Genesis, but not vice versa.  Luckily, 
the Vectrex joysticks have lasted well over 10 years (bought system in 84).  Unlike my sega/5200/2600 
etc joysticks that last 3 weeks.  

I am looking for new games programmed by anyone for this system, also the 3-d thingy, the light pen 
and Space Wars and Pole Position.  Lemme know if you have em!!!
Thanks.

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From: "Kevin J. Moorman" <moorman@freenet.calgary.ab.ca>
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Subject: MultiCarts
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Gee, everybody's got nice stuff but me!
I wanna corvette, I wanna TV
Everybody's got nice stuff but me!

I've been on-again, off-again desiring a multicart since Mark Woodward
was gonna/wasn't gonna make some multicarts about 2 years ago.  That's A
Long Time To Wait In This Consumer Age.  My vectrex I bought at the flea
market when I said "gee I wonder if those things are still around".  Yup!
It was.  But now, that was a long time ago, and to try to buy carts at
non-auction prices is astoundingly difficult and rare and requires a little
bit of effort.  Now I hear about a new name: Sean Kelly!  I haven't read
the FAQ list in a little while, but if there's a line-up forming for
multicarts, I'm in it!

To be fair, Mark sent me enough info to build a basic multicart, but its
going to take a little bit of work to build, and to hunt down a EPROM
burner.  What can I say, in this consumer age, we want want want with no
effort.  Shrug!  Hey, Mr. Kelly, if its true and you are making 'em, then
count me in please!

As always,
Kevin Moorman
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"Kevin J. Moorman" <moorman@freenet.calgary.ab.ca> wrote:


>I've been on-again, off-again desiring a multicart since Mark Woodward
>was gonna/wasn't gonna make some multicarts about 2 years ago.  That's A
>Long Time To Wait In This Consumer Age.  My vectrex I bought at the flea
>market when I said "gee I wonder if those things are still around".  Yup!
>It was.  But now, that was a long time ago, and to try to buy carts at
>non-auction prices is astoundingly difficult and rare and requires a little
>bit of effort.  Now I hear about a new name: Sean Kelly!  I haven't read
>the FAQ list in a little while, but if there's a line-up forming for
>multicarts, I'm in it!

Contact Sean Kelly at skelly@xnet.com. I have one of the first
menu-driven Sean Kelly multicarts, and I just love it. It completely
blows the minds of everyone who sees it and plays it. Last price I
knew about was $70; $20 more than the others, but at least you'll get
it in two weeks.

Virtually,
Warr

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Kevin J. Moorman (moorman@freenet.calgary.ab.ca) wrote:
: It was.  But now, that was a long time ago, and to try to buy carts at
: non-auction prices is astoundingly difficult and rare and requires a little
: bit of effort.  Now I hear about a new name: Sean Kelly!  I haven't read
: the FAQ list in a little while, but if there's a line-up forming for
: multicarts, I'm in it!

Yup, he still makes 'em....  in fact, he is in the procees of getting one 
ready for me as we speak.  :)  There has been quite a bit of his name 
being tossed around, so I imagine that there are many people wanting 
them.  Probably will be a bit of a wait, but I doubt it would be 2 years. <G>

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From: Alun Jenkins <alun@krypton.win-uk.net>
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Subject: Vectrex For sale in UK
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Heeey the title says it all
Offers for this nice box.
Have about 8 carts with it as well


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Kevin J. Moorman (moorman@freenet.calgary.ab.ca) wrote:
: Gee, everybody's got nice stuff but me!
: I wanna corvette, I wanna TV
: Everybody's got nice stuff but me!

Ok, come to San Diego. You can play all the arcade games you want for 
free. I'll let you watch TV and take a ride in my Vette if you can beat 
me in Star Castle : ) You have great taste in games and cars : ) : )
Gaymond Lee

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The Michael Lang Paper Auction:

                       >>>> U P D A T E ! ! ! <<<<

Auction ends October 1st, 1995 (Sunday at midnight)
Bids accepted in order received
All costs $US.
Buyer pays shipping
No revoking bids, you bid, you buy.
For more complete descriptions please write me.

ATTENTION:  IN ORDER TO PREVENT LAST MINUTE BID STEALING, THE MINIMUM 
BID INCREMENT HAS BEEN RAISED FOR ALL FIRST TIME BIDDERS!!! 

ONCE YOU HAVE A VALID BID ACCEPTED BY ME (ON ANY ITEM), YOU MAY PROCEED 
TO ENTER ADDITIONAL BIDS ON ANY ITEMS AT THE REDUCED MINIMUM BID 
INCREMENT.  UNTIL THAT TIME, ANY BIDS YOU PLACE MUST MEET THE FIRST TIME
BIDDERS MINUMUM BID INCREMENT!

THIS IS TO PROTECT MY CUSTOMERS WHO ENTER BIDS EARLY, ONLY TO BE 
BEATEN OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE BY LURKERS.

FIRST TIME BIDDERS, MINIMUM INCREMENT: $5.00, ANY ITEM.

Minimum increment for items under $10 = 50 cents
Minimum increment for items $10 and over = $1.00

(And yes, this means you can bid on any item which is currently not bid 
on for the minimum bid listed, and then raise any other bid per the 
reduced increment.)

*Here's a tip... Items 1 is still a steal.  This really ought to go.*
  

Item P001: (1930s?) Life Insurance / X-mas Carol Booklet:  $5    min
Item P002: 1924 New Jersey Motor Vehicle Act:              $5.50 (HUTCH)
Item P003: 1937 World Atlas / International Gazetteer:     $4    min
Item P004: 1947 ALCOA Aluminum and its Properties:         $3    min
Item P005: 1957 Gulf Oil Calorie Counter Premium:          $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P006: (1940s?) Quaker Oats Premium, McCalls Sewing:   $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P007: 1951 Chevrolet Owners Service Policy:           $3  (HARRIS)
Item P008: 1951 DELCO Battery Owners Service Policy:       $2 (ODUMPER)
Item P009: 1946/1947 Machinist Paycheck Stubs (approx 25): $3  (HARRIS)
Item P010: 1945 WWII Air Force ID Card:                    $5    min
Item P011: 1956 Pen and Ink Air Mail Letters from Germany: $5  (SNICH)
Item P012: (1950s?)Sears and Roebuck Check for 8 cents:    $4 (ROBERTO)
Item P013: Grab Bag, mixed and assorted paper:             $3    min
Item P014: 1950s / 1960s Maps and Calenders:               $15(SOLOMON)
Item P015: 1960s Ontario Tourist Paper:                    $3 (ODUMPER)

Thank you,

Michael Lang
michael.lang@syncomm.com


ITEM P001: LIFE INSURANCE / XMAS CAROL BOOKLET:

John Hancock Mutual Life Insurance Company of Boston Massachusetts 
Christmas Carol Booklet (4.5 inches x 6.0 inches x 16 pages) with pen 
and colored inks hand drawing on front/rear cover showing church screen.
Says Issue No. 115 on the last page.  Has a few pair of staple holes 
around perimeter, but they have pretty much closed back up.  Has been 
estimated at about 1930, but no guarantees on that.


ITEM P002: 1924 NEW JERSEY MOTOR VEHICLE ACT:

This is the 1924 release of The Motor Vehicle Act of New Jersey together
with the Traffic Act.  It measures 6 inches by 9 inches by 75 pages and 
covers everything you need to know including using your whip; warrants 
served on Sunday; tree - horses not tied to, racing - when permitted, 
bells on your horse, and of course, all of the automobile information of
the age.  This thing is a RIOT!   Every page a gem.


ITEM P003: 1937 WORLD ATLAS / INTERNATIONAL GAZETTEER:

This booklet was released by the Paterson News and contains color maps 
as well as text description of the countries of the world.  It measures 
6 inches by 9 inches by 40 pages.  The booklet also contains a list of 
other Home Institute booklets available for 15 cents a copy, including
how to Interpret Your Dreams, Social Dancing - Self Taught, and You can 
be Popular.  This booklet is number 54 of the series.


ITEM P004: 1947 ALCOA ALUMINUM AND ITS PROPERTIES:

This spring bound book was published by ALCOA, the Aluminum Company of 
America.  It gives both general information about aluminum, as well as 
table of machinist and engineering data.  The book measures 5.5 inches 
by 8.25 inches by 154 pages.  Small amount of scuffing on cover.


ITEM P005: 1957 GULF OIL CALORIE COUNTER PREMIUM:

The Gulf Calorie Counter Premium provides an ingenious means of allowing
the user to monitor their calorie intake during the day.  A wheel is 
turned every time any entry is made.  The wheel keeps a running total of
the days entries.  Mailed out to customers from privately owned gas 
stations... this one came from Marty's Gulf Service in Bloomingdale NJ. 
The counter measures 4.25 inches by 4.25 inches, plus the fold out 
wheel.


ITEM P006: QUAKER OATS PREMIUM, McCALLS SEWING:
This Quaker Oats Premium consists of a folder sewing pattern: The 
McCalls Party Apron.  The pattern was design by Luis Estevez.  The 
patterns is unused.


ITEM P007: 1951 CHEVROLET OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

The formal and distinguished look of this tri-fold owner service policy 
(fancy money green border on white page with black type) really sets it 
apart.  It is neatly typed and twice signed in pen and ink by the 
dealer.  It is dated 1951 and carries engine numbers, serial numbers, 
and key numbers.It measures 8.5 inches by 3.75 inches as properly 
folded.


ITEM P008: 1951 DELCO BATTERY OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

Similar to item P007, only slightly less striking, this Delco Owners 
Warranty and Adjustment Service Policy is neatly typed.  It was for a 
battery in a 1951 Chevy Pick-up.


ITEM P009: 1946/1947 MACHINIST PAYCHECK STUBS (approx 25):

These pen and ink hand completed pay stubs were issued by the 
Newfoundland Machine Shop.  Also included, (2) business cards from the 
same era, one from the Newfoundland Machine Shop, the other from 
Faitoute Iron and Steel Company, and what appears to be the empty 
envelope from a Christmas Bonus!


ITEM P010: 1945 WWII AIR FORCE ID CARD:

Measuring 2.5 inches by 3.5 inches, this card was issued to Col. Scherer
served honorably and well in the united states armed forces in WWII with
the 2536th AAF Base Unit  The card, while quite legible and in good 
sturdy shape, is aged as if was carried around in a wallet for many 
years, and is a bit brownish.


ITEM P011: 1956 PEN AND INK AIR MAIL FROM GEMANY (25):

A collection of approximately 25 hand pen and inked letters from 1956, 
sent in air mail envelopes from Germany.  Most envelopes still have wide
assortment of German stamps Seems like different stamps and different 
numbers of stamps on each envelop.  


ITEM P012: SEARS AND ROEBUCK CHECK FOR 8 CENTS:

Estimated at mid 1950's, this official Sears and Roebuck check for 8 
cents comes with completed order forms and invoices to and from Sears.  
It lists $2.37 dress shirts, $6.88 mattresses, and $2.97 jackets.  No 
obvious marking which would void the check, so you might still be able 
to get cashed (haha).


ITEM P013:  GRAB BAG, MIXED AND ASSORTED PAPER:

1961 calender from Dover Savings and Loan; 1962 Shop Rite receipt; 1953 
calender card from First National Bank of Bloomingdale; 1955 Government 
Booklet - Your Social Security (44 pages); 1955 Employment Application 
for machinist, looks like a personal copy he filled out for records; 
1958/1959 used dry cleaning envelope / booklet, with bonus certificate; 
1958 First National Bank of Paterson personalized Credit Certificate
wallet card; 1942 Dieztgen Drafting calender and decimal conversion 
wallet card; 1957 Treasury Department envelop and 'NOTICE OF AWARD OF 
LUMP SUM DEATH PAYMENT'


ITEM P014: 1950s / 1960s MAPS AND CALANDERS:

Assorted maps and calenders from 1950s and 1960s, New Jersey, 
Pennsylvannia, Ontario, New York City, East Coast, Esso, Baltimore, 
etc..  Esso, Texaco, Gulf, insurance, etc..

ITEM P015: 1960s ONTARIO TOURIST PAPER:

This large packet contains numerous maps and pamphlets for tourist 
attractions in Ontario.  including 1963 Angling in Ontario, Forts, the 
Falls, etc.  Check out the prices on the menu from The Dutch Village 
Restaurant - Entrees: $1.70, Milk: 12 cents, Grill Cheese: 35 cents., 
etc.
---
~ CMPQwk #1.42-R2~ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY

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The Michael Lang Paper Auction:

                       >>>> U P D A T E ! ! ! <<<<

Auction ends October 1st, 1995 (Sunday at midnight)
Bids accepted in order received
All costs $US.
Buyer pays shipping
No revoking bids, you bid, you buy.
For more complete descriptions please write me.

ATTENTION:  IN ORDER TO PREVENT LAST MINUTE BID STEALING, THE MINIMUM 
BID INCREMENT HAS BEEN RAISED FOR ALL FIRST TIME BIDDERS!!! 

ONCE YOU HAVE A VALID BID ACCEPTED BY ME (ON ANY ITEM), YOU MAY PROCEED 
TO ENTER ADDITIONAL BIDS ON ANY ITEMS AT THE REDUCED MINIMUM BID 
INCREMENT.  UNTIL THAT TIME, ANY BIDS YOU PLACE MUST MEET THE FIRST TIME
BIDDERS MINUMUM BID INCREMENT!

THIS IS TO PROTECT MY CUSTOMERS WHO ENTER BIDS EARLY, ONLY TO BE 
BEATEN OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE BY LURKERS.

FIRST TIME BIDDERS, MINIMUM INCREMENT: $5.00, ANY ITEM.

Minimum increment for items under $10 = 50 cents
Minimum increment for items $10 and over = $1.00

(And yes, this means you can bid on any item which is currently not bid 
on for the minimum bid listed, and then raise any other bid per the 
reduced increment.)

*Here's a tip... Items 1 is still a steal.  This really ought to go.*
  

Item P001: (1930s?) Life Insurance / X-mas Carol Booklet:  $5    min
Item P002: 1924 New Jersey Motor Vehicle Act:              $5.50 (HUTCH)
Item P003: 1937 World Atlas / International Gazetteer:     $4    min
Item P004: 1947 ALCOA Aluminum and its Properties:         $3    min
Item P005: 1957 Gulf Oil Calorie Counter Premium:          $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P006: (1940s?) Quaker Oats Premium, McCalls Sewing:   $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P007: 1951 Chevrolet Owners Service Policy:           $3  (HARRIS)
Item P008: 1951 DELCO Battery Owners Service Policy:       $2 (ODUMPER)
Item P009: 1946/1947 Machinist Paycheck Stubs (approx 25): $3  (HARRIS)
Item P010: 1945 WWII Air Force ID Card:                    $5    min
Item P011: 1956 Pen and Ink Air Mail Letters from Germany: $5  (SNICH)
Item P012: (1950s?)Sears and Roebuck Check for 8 cents:    $4 (ROBERTO)
Item P013: Grab Bag, mixed and assorted paper:             $3    min
Item P014: 1950s / 1960s Maps and Calenders:               $15(SOLOMON)
Item P015: 1960s Ontario Tourist Paper:                    $3 (ODUMPER)

Thank you,

Michael Lang
michael.lang@syncomm.com


ITEM P001: LIFE INSURANCE / XMAS CAROL BOOKLET:

John Hancock Mutual Life Insurance Company of Boston Massachusetts 
Christmas Carol Booklet (4.5 inches x 6.0 inches x 16 pages) with pen 
and colored inks hand drawing on front/rear cover showing church screen.
Says Issue No. 115 on the last page.  Has a few pair of staple holes 
around perimeter, but they have pretty much closed back up.  Has been 
estimated at about 1930, but no guarantees on that.


ITEM P002: 1924 NEW JERSEY MOTOR VEHICLE ACT:

This is the 1924 release of The Motor Vehicle Act of New Jersey together
with the Traffic Act.  It measures 6 inches by 9 inches by 75 pages and 
covers everything you need to know including using your whip; warrants 
served on Sunday; tree - horses not tied to, racing - when permitted, 
bells on your horse, and of course, all of the automobile information of
the age.  This thing is a RIOT!   Every page a gem.


ITEM P003: 1937 WORLD ATLAS / INTERNATIONAL GAZETTEER:

This booklet was released by the Paterson News and contains color maps 
as well as text description of the countries of the world.  It measures 
6 inches by 9 inches by 40 pages.  The booklet also contains a list of 
other Home Institute booklets available for 15 cents a copy, including
how to Interpret Your Dreams, Social Dancing - Self Taught, and You can 
be Popular.  This booklet is number 54 of the series.


ITEM P004: 1947 ALCOA ALUMINUM AND ITS PROPERTIES:

This spring bound book was published by ALCOA, the Aluminum Company of 
America.  It gives both general information about aluminum, as well as 
table of machinist and engineering data.  The book measures 5.5 inches 
by 8.25 inches by 154 pages.  Small amount of scuffing on cover.


ITEM P005: 1957 GULF OIL CALORIE COUNTER PREMIUM:

The Gulf Calorie Counter Premium provides an ingenious means of allowing
the user to monitor their calorie intake during the day.  A wheel is 
turned every time any entry is made.  The wheel keeps a running total of
the days entries.  Mailed out to customers from privately owned gas 
stations... this one came from Marty's Gulf Service in Bloomingdale NJ. 
The counter measures 4.25 inches by 4.25 inches, plus the fold out 
wheel.


ITEM P006: QUAKER OATS PREMIUM, McCALLS SEWING:
This Quaker Oats Premium consists of a folder sewing pattern: The 
McCalls Party Apron.  The pattern was design by Luis Estevez.  The 
patterns is unused.


ITEM P007: 1951 CHEVROLET OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

The formal and distinguished look of this tri-fold owner service policy 
(fancy money green border on white page with black type) really sets it 
apart.  It is neatly typed and twice signed in pen and ink by the 
dealer.  It is dated 1951 and carries engine numbers, serial numbers, 
and key numbers.It measures 8.5 inches by 3.75 inches as properly 
folded.


ITEM P008: 1951 DELCO BATTERY OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

Similar to item P007, only slightly less striking, this Delco Owners 
Warranty and Adjustment Service Policy is neatly typed.  It was for a 
battery in a 1951 Chevy Pick-up.


ITEM P009: 1946/1947 MACHINIST PAYCHECK STUBS (approx 25):

These pen and ink hand completed pay stubs were issued by the 
Newfoundland Machine Shop.  Also included, (2) business cards from the 
same era, one from the Newfoundland Machine Shop, the other from 
Faitoute Iron and Steel Company, and what appears to be the empty 
envelope from a Christmas Bonus!


ITEM P010: 1945 WWII AIR FORCE ID CARD:

Measuring 2.5 inches by 3.5 inches, this card was issued to Col. Scherer
served honorably and well in the united states armed forces in WWII with
the 2536th AAF Base Unit  The card, while quite legible and in good 
sturdy shape, is aged as if was carried around in a wallet for many 
years, and is a bit brownish.


ITEM P011: 1956 PEN AND INK AIR MAIL FROM GEMANY (25):

A collection of approximately 25 hand pen and inked letters from 1956, 
sent in air mail envelopes from Germany.  Most envelopes still have wide
assortment of German stamps Seems like different stamps and different 
numbers of stamps on each envelop.  


ITEM P012: SEARS AND ROEBUCK CHECK FOR 8 CENTS:

Estimated at mid 1950's, this official Sears and Roebuck check for 8 
cents comes with completed order forms and invoices to and from Sears.  
It lists $2.37 dress shirts, $6.88 mattresses, and $2.97 jackets.  No 
obvious marking which would void the check, so you might still be able 
to get cashed (haha).


ITEM P013:  GRAB BAG, MIXED AND ASSORTED PAPER:

1961 calender from Dover Savings and Loan; 1962 Shop Rite receipt; 1953 
calender card from First National Bank of Bloomingdale; 1955 Government 
Booklet - Your Social Security (44 pages); 1955 Employment Application 
for machinist, looks like a personal copy he filled out for records; 
1958/1959 used dry cleaning envelope / booklet, with bonus certificate; 
1958 First National Bank of Paterson personalized Credit Certificate
wallet card; 1942 Dieztgen Drafting calender and decimal conversion 
wallet card; 1957 Treasury Department envelop and 'NOTICE OF AWARD OF 
LUMP SUM DEATH PAYMENT'


ITEM P014: 1950s / 1960s MAPS AND CALANDERS:

Assorted maps and calenders from 1950s and 1960s, New Jersey, 
Pennsylvannia, Ontario, New York City, East Coast, Esso, Baltimore, 
etc..  Esso, Texaco, Gulf, insurance, etc..

ITEM P015: 1960s ONTARIO TOURIST PAPER:

This large packet contains numerous maps and pamphlets for tourist 
attractions in Ontario.  including 1963 Angling in Ontario, Forts, the 
Falls, etc.  Check out the prices on the menu from The Dutch Village 
Restaurant - Entrees: $1.70, Milk: 12 cents, Grill Cheese: 35 cents., 
etc.
---
~ CMPQwk #1.42-R2~ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY

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The Michael Lang Paper Auction:

                       >>>> U P D A T E ! ! ! <<<<

Auction ends October 1st, 1995 (Sunday at midnight)
Bids accepted in order received
All costs $US.
Buyer pays shipping
No revoking bids, you bid, you buy.
For more complete descriptions please write me.

ATTENTION:  IN ORDER TO PREVENT LAST MINUTE BID STEALING, THE MINIMUM 
BID INCREMENT HAS BEEN RAISED FOR ALL FIRST TIME BIDDERS!!! 

ONCE YOU HAVE A VALID BID ACCEPTED BY ME (ON ANY ITEM), YOU MAY PROCEED 
TO ENTER ADDITIONAL BIDS ON ANY ITEMS AT THE REDUCED MINIMUM BID 
INCREMENT.  UNTIL THAT TIME, ANY BIDS YOU PLACE MUST MEET THE FIRST TIME
BIDDERS MINUMUM BID INCREMENT!

THIS IS TO PROTECT MY CUSTOMERS WHO ENTER BIDS EARLY, ONLY TO BE 
BEATEN OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE BY LURKERS.

FIRST TIME BIDDERS, MINIMUM INCREMENT: $5.00, ANY ITEM.

Minimum increment for items under $10 = 50 cents
Minimum increment for items $10 and over = $1.00

(And yes, this means you can bid on any item which is currently not bid 
on for the minimum bid listed, and then raise any other bid per the 
reduced increment.)

*Here's a tip... Items 1 is still a steal.  This really ought to go.*
  

Item P001: (1930s?) Life Insurance / X-mas Carol Booklet:  $5    min
Item P002: 1924 New Jersey Motor Vehicle Act:              $5.50 (HUTCH)
Item P003: 1937 World Atlas / International Gazetteer:     $4    min
Item P004: 1947 ALCOA Aluminum and its Properties:         $3    min
Item P005: 1957 Gulf Oil Calorie Counter Premium:          $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P006: (1940s?) Quaker Oats Premium, McCalls Sewing:   $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P007: 1951 Chevrolet Owners Service Policy:           $3  (HARRIS)
Item P008: 1951 DELCO Battery Owners Service Policy:       $2 (ODUMPER)
Item P009: 1946/1947 Machinist Paycheck Stubs (approx 25): $3  (HARRIS)
Item P010: 1945 WWII Air Force ID Card:                    $5    min
Item P011: 1956 Pen and Ink Air Mail Letters from Germany: $5  (SNICH)
Item P012: (1950s?)Sears and Roebuck Check for 8 cents:    $4 (ROBERTO)
Item P013: Grab Bag, mixed and assorted paper:             $3    min
Item P014: 1950s / 1960s Maps and Calenders:               $15(SOLOMON)
Item P015: 1960s Ontario Tourist Paper:                    $3 (ODUMPER)

Thank you,

Michael Lang
michael.lang@syncomm.com


ITEM P001: LIFE INSURANCE / XMAS CAROL BOOKLET:

John Hancock Mutual Life Insurance Company of Boston Massachusetts 
Christmas Carol Booklet (4.5 inches x 6.0 inches x 16 pages) with pen 
and colored inks hand drawing on front/rear cover showing church screen.
Says Issue No. 115 on the last page.  Has a few pair of staple holes 
around perimeter, but they have pretty much closed back up.  Has been 
estimated at about 1930, but no guarantees on that.


ITEM P002: 1924 NEW JERSEY MOTOR VEHICLE ACT:

This is the 1924 release of The Motor Vehicle Act of New Jersey together
with the Traffic Act.  It measures 6 inches by 9 inches by 75 pages and 
covers everything you need to know including using your whip; warrants 
served on Sunday; tree - horses not tied to, racing - when permitted, 
bells on your horse, and of course, all of the automobile information of
the age.  This thing is a RIOT!   Every page a gem.


ITEM P003: 1937 WORLD ATLAS / INTERNATIONAL GAZETTEER:

This booklet was released by the Paterson News and contains color maps 
as well as text description of the countries of the world.  It measures 
6 inches by 9 inches by 40 pages.  The booklet also contains a list of 
other Home Institute booklets available for 15 cents a copy, including
how to Interpret Your Dreams, Social Dancing - Self Taught, and You can 
be Popular.  This booklet is number 54 of the series.


ITEM P004: 1947 ALCOA ALUMINUM AND ITS PROPERTIES:

This spring bound book was published by ALCOA, the Aluminum Company of 
America.  It gives both general information about aluminum, as well as 
table of machinist and engineering data.  The book measures 5.5 inches 
by 8.25 inches by 154 pages.  Small amount of scuffing on cover.


ITEM P005: 1957 GULF OIL CALORIE COUNTER PREMIUM:

The Gulf Calorie Counter Premium provides an ingenious means of allowing
the user to monitor their calorie intake during the day.  A wheel is 
turned every time any entry is made.  The wheel keeps a running total of
the days entries.  Mailed out to customers from privately owned gas 
stations... this one came from Marty's Gulf Service in Bloomingdale NJ. 
The counter measures 4.25 inches by 4.25 inches, plus the fold out 
wheel.


ITEM P006: QUAKER OATS PREMIUM, McCALLS SEWING:
This Quaker Oats Premium consists of a folder sewing pattern: The 
McCalls Party Apron.  The pattern was design by Luis Estevez.  The 
patterns is unused.


ITEM P007: 1951 CHEVROLET OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

The formal and distinguished look of this tri-fold owner service policy 
(fancy money green border on white page with black type) really sets it 
apart.  It is neatly typed and twice signed in pen and ink by the 
dealer.  It is dated 1951 and carries engine numbers, serial numbers, 
and key numbers.It measures 8.5 inches by 3.75 inches as properly 
folded.


ITEM P008: 1951 DELCO BATTERY OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

Similar to item P007, only slightly less striking, this Delco Owners 
Warranty and Adjustment Service Policy is neatly typed.  It was for a 
battery in a 1951 Chevy Pick-up.


ITEM P009: 1946/1947 MACHINIST PAYCHECK STUBS (approx 25):

These pen and ink hand completed pay stubs were issued by the 
Newfoundland Machine Shop.  Also included, (2) business cards from the 
same era, one from the Newfoundland Machine Shop, the other from 
Faitoute Iron and Steel Company, and what appears to be the empty 
envelope from a Christmas Bonus!


ITEM P010: 1945 WWII AIR FORCE ID CARD:

Measuring 2.5 inches by 3.5 inches, this card was issued to Col. Scherer
served honorably and well in the united states armed forces in WWII with
the 2536th AAF Base Unit  The card, while quite legible and in good 
sturdy shape, is aged as if was carried around in a wallet for many 
years, and is a bit brownish.


ITEM P011: 1956 PEN AND INK AIR MAIL FROM GEMANY (25):

A collection of approximately 25 hand pen and inked letters from 1956, 
sent in air mail envelopes from Germany.  Most envelopes still have wide
assortment of German stamps Seems like different stamps and different 
numbers of stamps on each envelop.  


ITEM P012: SEARS AND ROEBUCK CHECK FOR 8 CENTS:

Estimated at mid 1950's, this official Sears and Roebuck check for 8 
cents comes with completed order forms and invoices to and from Sears.  
It lists $2.37 dress shirts, $6.88 mattresses, and $2.97 jackets.  No 
obvious marking which would void the check, so you might still be able 
to get cashed (haha).


ITEM P013:  GRAB BAG, MIXED AND ASSORTED PAPER:

1961 calender from Dover Savings and Loan; 1962 Shop Rite receipt; 1953 
calender card from First National Bank of Bloomingdale; 1955 Government 
Booklet - Your Social Security (44 pages); 1955 Employment Application 
for machinist, looks like a personal copy he filled out for records; 
1958/1959 used dry cleaning envelope / booklet, with bonus certificate; 
1958 First National Bank of Paterson personalized Credit Certificate
wallet card; 1942 Dieztgen Drafting calender and decimal conversion 
wallet card; 1957 Treasury Department envelop and 'NOTICE OF AWARD OF 
LUMP SUM DEATH PAYMENT'


ITEM P014: 1950s / 1960s MAPS AND CALANDERS:

Assorted maps and calenders from 1950s and 1960s, New Jersey, 
Pennsylvannia, Ontario, New York City, East Coast, Esso, Baltimore, 
etc..  Esso, Texaco, Gulf, insurance, etc..

ITEM P015: 1960s ONTARIO TOURIST PAPER:

This large packet contains numerous maps and pamphlets for tourist 
attractions in Ontario.  including 1963 Angling in Ontario, Forts, the 
Falls, etc.  Check out the prices on the menu from The Dutch Village 
Restaurant - Entrees: $1.70, Milk: 12 cents, Grill Cheese: 35 cents., 
etc.
---
~ CMPQwk #1.42-R2~ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY

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The Michael Lang Paper Auction:

                       >>>> U P D A T E ! ! ! <<<<

Auction ends October 1st, 1995 (Sunday at midnight)
Bids accepted in order received
All costs $US.
Buyer pays shipping
No revoking bids, you bid, you buy.
For more complete descriptions please write me.

ATTENTION:  IN ORDER TO PREVENT LAST MINUTE BID STEALING, THE MINIMUM 
BID INCREMENT HAS BEEN RAISED FOR ALL FIRST TIME BIDDERS!!! 

ONCE YOU HAVE A VALID BID ACCEPTED BY ME (ON ANY ITEM), YOU MAY PROCEED 
TO ENTER ADDITIONAL BIDS ON ANY ITEMS AT THE REDUCED MINIMUM BID 
INCREMENT.  UNTIL THAT TIME, ANY BIDS YOU PLACE MUST MEET THE FIRST TIME
BIDDERS MINUMUM BID INCREMENT!

THIS IS TO PROTECT MY CUSTOMERS WHO ENTER BIDS EARLY, ONLY TO BE 
BEATEN OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE BY LURKERS.

FIRST TIME BIDDERS, MINIMUM INCREMENT: $5.00, ANY ITEM.

Minimum increment for items under $10 = 50 cents
Minimum increment for items $10 and over = $1.00

(And yes, this means you can bid on any item which is currently not bid 
on for the minimum bid listed, and then raise any other bid per the 
reduced increment.)

*Here's a tip... Items 1 is still a steal.  This really ought to go.*
  

Item P001: (1930s?) Life Insurance / X-mas Carol Booklet:  $5    min
Item P002: 1924 New Jersey Motor Vehicle Act:              $5.50 (HUTCH)
Item P003: 1937 World Atlas / International Gazetteer:     $4    min
Item P004: 1947 ALCOA Aluminum and its Properties:         $3    min
Item P005: 1957 Gulf Oil Calorie Counter Premium:          $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P006: (1940s?) Quaker Oats Premium, McCalls Sewing:   $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P007: 1951 Chevrolet Owners Service Policy:           $3  (HARRIS)
Item P008: 1951 DELCO Battery Owners Service Policy:       $2 (ODUMPER)
Item P009: 1946/1947 Machinist Paycheck Stubs (approx 25): $3  (HARRIS)
Item P010: 1945 WWII Air Force ID Card:                    $5    min
Item P011: 1956 Pen and Ink Air Mail Letters from Germany: $5  (SNICH)
Item P012: (1950s?)Sears and Roebuck Check for 8 cents:    $4 (ROBERTO)
Item P013: Grab Bag, mixed and assorted paper:             $3    min
Item P014: 1950s / 1960s Maps and Calenders:               $15(SOLOMON)
Item P015: 1960s Ontario Tourist Paper:                    $3 (ODUMPER)

Thank you,

Michael Lang
michael.lang@syncomm.com


ITEM P001: LIFE INSURANCE / XMAS CAROL BOOKLET:

John Hancock Mutual Life Insurance Company of Boston Massachusetts 
Christmas Carol Booklet (4.5 inches x 6.0 inches x 16 pages) with pen 
and colored inks hand drawing on front/rear cover showing church screen.
Says Issue No. 115 on the last page.  Has a few pair of staple holes 
around perimeter, but they have pretty much closed back up.  Has been 
estimated at about 1930, but no guarantees on that.


ITEM P002: 1924 NEW JERSEY MOTOR VEHICLE ACT:

This is the 1924 release of The Motor Vehicle Act of New Jersey together
with the Traffic Act.  It measures 6 inches by 9 inches by 75 pages and 
covers everything you need to know including using your whip; warrants 
served on Sunday; tree - horses not tied to, racing - when permitted, 
bells on your horse, and of course, all of the automobile information of
the age.  This thing is a RIOT!   Every page a gem.


ITEM P003: 1937 WORLD ATLAS / INTERNATIONAL GAZETTEER:

This booklet was released by the Paterson News and contains color maps 
as well as text description of the countries of the world.  It measures 
6 inches by 9 inches by 40 pages.  The booklet also contains a list of 
other Home Institute booklets available for 15 cents a copy, including
how to Interpret Your Dreams, Social Dancing - Self Taught, and You can 
be Popular.  This booklet is number 54 of the series.


ITEM P004: 1947 ALCOA ALUMINUM AND ITS PROPERTIES:

This spring bound book was published by ALCOA, the Aluminum Company of 
America.  It gives both general information about aluminum, as well as 
table of machinist and engineering data.  The book measures 5.5 inches 
by 8.25 inches by 154 pages.  Small amount of scuffing on cover.


ITEM P005: 1957 GULF OIL CALORIE COUNTER PREMIUM:

The Gulf Calorie Counter Premium provides an ingenious means of allowing
the user to monitor their calorie intake during the day.  A wheel is 
turned every time any entry is made.  The wheel keeps a running total of
the days entries.  Mailed out to customers from privately owned gas 
stations... this one came from Marty's Gulf Service in Bloomingdale NJ. 
The counter measures 4.25 inches by 4.25 inches, plus the fold out 
wheel.


ITEM P006: QUAKER OATS PREMIUM, McCALLS SEWING:
This Quaker Oats Premium consists of a folder sewing pattern: The 
McCalls Party Apron.  The pattern was design by Luis Estevez.  The 
patterns is unused.


ITEM P007: 1951 CHEVROLET OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

The formal and distinguished look of this tri-fold owner service policy 
(fancy money green border on white page with black type) really sets it 
apart.  It is neatly typed and twice signed in pen and ink by the 
dealer.  It is dated 1951 and carries engine numbers, serial numbers, 
and key numbers.It measures 8.5 inches by 3.75 inches as properly 
folded.


ITEM P008: 1951 DELCO BATTERY OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

Similar to item P007, only slightly less striking, this Delco Owners 
Warranty and Adjustment Service Policy is neatly typed.  It was for a 
battery in a 1951 Chevy Pick-up.


ITEM P009: 1946/1947 MACHINIST PAYCHECK STUBS (approx 25):

These pen and ink hand completed pay stubs were issued by the 
Newfoundland Machine Shop.  Also included, (2) business cards from the 
same era, one from the Newfoundland Machine Shop, the other from 
Faitoute Iron and Steel Company, and what appears to be the empty 
envelope from a Christmas Bonus!


ITEM P010: 1945 WWII AIR FORCE ID CARD:

Measuring 2.5 inches by 3.5 inches, this card was issued to Col. Scherer
served honorably and well in the united states armed forces in WWII with
the 2536th AAF Base Unit  The card, while quite legible and in good 
sturdy shape, is aged as if was carried around in a wallet for many 
years, and is a bit brownish.


ITEM P011: 1956 PEN AND INK AIR MAIL FROM GEMANY (25):

A collection of approximately 25 hand pen and inked letters from 1956, 
sent in air mail envelopes from Germany.  Most envelopes still have wide
assortment of German stamps Seems like different stamps and different 
numbers of stamps on each envelop.  


ITEM P012: SEARS AND ROEBUCK CHECK FOR 8 CENTS:

Estimated at mid 1950's, this official Sears and Roebuck check for 8 
cents comes with completed order forms and invoices to and from Sears.  
It lists $2.37 dress shirts, $6.88 mattresses, and $2.97 jackets.  No 
obvious marking which would void the check, so you might still be able 
to get cashed (haha).


ITEM P013:  GRAB BAG, MIXED AND ASSORTED PAPER:

1961 calender from Dover Savings and Loan; 1962 Shop Rite receipt; 1953 
calender card from First National Bank of Bloomingdale; 1955 Government 
Booklet - Your Social Security (44 pages); 1955 Employment Application 
for machinist, looks like a personal copy he filled out for records; 
1958/1959 used dry cleaning envelope / booklet, with bonus certificate; 
1958 First National Bank of Paterson personalized Credit Certificate
wallet card; 1942 Dieztgen Drafting calender and decimal conversion 
wallet card; 1957 Treasury Department envelop and 'NOTICE OF AWARD OF 
LUMP SUM DEATH PAYMENT'


ITEM P014: 1950s / 1960s MAPS AND CALANDERS:

Assorted maps and calenders from 1950s and 1960s, New Jersey, 
Pennsylvannia, Ontario, New York City, East Coast, Esso, Baltimore, 
etc..  Esso, Texaco, Gulf, insurance, etc..

ITEM P015: 1960s ONTARIO TOURIST PAPER:

This large packet contains numerous maps and pamphlets for tourist 
attractions in Ontario.  including 1963 Angling in Ontario, Forts, the 
Falls, etc.  Check out the prices on the menu from The Dutch Village 
Restaurant - Entrees: $1.70, Milk: 12 cents, Grill Cheese: 35 cents., 
etc.
---
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The Michael Lang Paper Auction:

                       >>>> U P D A T E ! ! ! <<<<

Auction ends October 1st, 1995 (Sunday at midnight)
Bids accepted in order received
All costs $US.
Buyer pays shipping
No revoking bids, you bid, you buy.
For more complete descriptions please write me.

ATTENTION:  IN ORDER TO PREVENT LAST MINUTE BID STEALING, THE MINIMUM 
BID INCREMENT HAS BEEN RAISED FOR ALL FIRST TIME BIDDERS!!! 

ONCE YOU HAVE A VALID BID ACCEPTED BY ME (ON ANY ITEM), YOU MAY PROCEED 
TO ENTER ADDITIONAL BIDS ON ANY ITEMS AT THE REDUCED MINIMUM BID 
INCREMENT.  UNTIL THAT TIME, ANY BIDS YOU PLACE MUST MEET THE FIRST TIME
BIDDERS MINUMUM BID INCREMENT!

THIS IS TO PROTECT MY CUSTOMERS WHO ENTER BIDS EARLY, ONLY TO BE 
BEATEN OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE BY LURKERS.

FIRST TIME BIDDERS, MINIMUM INCREMENT: $5.00, ANY ITEM.

Minimum increment for items under $10 = 50 cents
Minimum increment for items $10 and over = $1.00

(And yes, this means you can bid on any item which is currently not bid 
on for the minimum bid listed, and then raise any other bid per the 
reduced increment.)

*Here's a tip... Items 1 is still a steal.  This really ought to go.*
  

Item P001: (1930s?) Life Insurance / X-mas Carol Booklet:  $5    min
Item P002: 1924 New Jersey Motor Vehicle Act:              $5.50 (HUTCH)
Item P003: 1937 World Atlas / International Gazetteer:     $4    min
Item P004: 1947 ALCOA Aluminum and its Properties:         $3    min
Item P005: 1957 Gulf Oil Calorie Counter Premium:          $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P006: (1940s?) Quaker Oats Premium, McCalls Sewing:   $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P007: 1951 Chevrolet Owners Service Policy:           $3  (HARRIS)
Item P008: 1951 DELCO Battery Owners Service Policy:       $2 (ODUMPER)
Item P009: 1946/1947 Machinist Paycheck Stubs (approx 25): $3  (HARRIS)
Item P010: 1945 WWII Air Force ID Card:                    $5    min
Item P011: 1956 Pen and Ink Air Mail Letters from Germany: $5  (SNICH)
Item P012: (1950s?)Sears and Roebuck Check for 8 cents:    $4 (ROBERTO)
Item P013: Grab Bag, mixed and assorted paper:             $3    min
Item P014: 1950s / 1960s Maps and Calenders:               $15(SOLOMON)
Item P015: 1960s Ontario Tourist Paper:                    $3 (ODUMPER)

Thank you,

Michael Lang
michael.lang@syncomm.com


ITEM P001: LIFE INSURANCE / XMAS CAROL BOOKLET:

John Hancock Mutual Life Insurance Company of Boston Massachusetts 
Christmas Carol Booklet (4.5 inches x 6.0 inches x 16 pages) with pen 
and colored inks hand drawing on front/rear cover showing church screen.
Says Issue No. 115 on the last page.  Has a few pair of staple holes 
around perimeter, but they have pretty much closed back up.  Has been 
estimated at about 1930, but no guarantees on that.


ITEM P002: 1924 NEW JERSEY MOTOR VEHICLE ACT:

This is the 1924 release of The Motor Vehicle Act of New Jersey together
with the Traffic Act.  It measures 6 inches by 9 inches by 75 pages and 
covers everything you need to know including using your whip; warrants 
served on Sunday; tree - horses not tied to, racing - when permitted, 
bells on your horse, and of course, all of the automobile information of
the age.  This thing is a RIOT!   Every page a gem.


ITEM P003: 1937 WORLD ATLAS / INTERNATIONAL GAZETTEER:

This booklet was released by the Paterson News and contains color maps 
as well as text description of the countries of the world.  It measures 
6 inches by 9 inches by 40 pages.  The booklet also contains a list of 
other Home Institute booklets available for 15 cents a copy, including
how to Interpret Your Dreams, Social Dancing - Self Taught, and You can 
be Popular.  This booklet is number 54 of the series.


ITEM P004: 1947 ALCOA ALUMINUM AND ITS PROPERTIES:

This spring bound book was published by ALCOA, the Aluminum Company of 
America.  It gives both general information about aluminum, as well as 
table of machinist and engineering data.  The book measures 5.5 inches 
by 8.25 inches by 154 pages.  Small amount of scuffing on cover.


ITEM P005: 1957 GULF OIL CALORIE COUNTER PREMIUM:

The Gulf Calorie Counter Premium provides an ingenious means of allowing
the user to monitor their calorie intake during the day.  A wheel is 
turned every time any entry is made.  The wheel keeps a running total of
the days entries.  Mailed out to customers from privately owned gas 
stations... this one came from Marty's Gulf Service in Bloomingdale NJ. 
The counter measures 4.25 inches by 4.25 inches, plus the fold out 
wheel.


ITEM P006: QUAKER OATS PREMIUM, McCALLS SEWING:
This Quaker Oats Premium consists of a folder sewing pattern: The 
McCalls Party Apron.  The pattern was design by Luis Estevez.  The 
patterns is unused.


ITEM P007: 1951 CHEVROLET OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

The formal and distinguished look of this tri-fold owner service policy 
(fancy money green border on white page with black type) really sets it 
apart.  It is neatly typed and twice signed in pen and ink by the 
dealer.  It is dated 1951 and carries engine numbers, serial numbers, 
and key numbers.It measures 8.5 inches by 3.75 inches as properly 
folded.


ITEM P008: 1951 DELCO BATTERY OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

Similar to item P007, only slightly less striking, this Delco Owners 
Warranty and Adjustment Service Policy is neatly typed.  It was for a 
battery in a 1951 Chevy Pick-up.


ITEM P009: 1946/1947 MACHINIST PAYCHECK STUBS (approx 25):

These pen and ink hand completed pay stubs were issued by the 
Newfoundland Machine Shop.  Also included, (2) business cards from the 
same era, one from the Newfoundland Machine Shop, the other from 
Faitoute Iron and Steel Company, and what appears to be the empty 
envelope from a Christmas Bonus!


ITEM P010: 1945 WWII AIR FORCE ID CARD:

Measuring 2.5 inches by 3.5 inches, this card was issued to Col. Scherer
served honorably and well in the united states armed forces in WWII with
the 2536th AAF Base Unit  The card, while quite legible and in good 
sturdy shape, is aged as if was carried around in a wallet for many 
years, and is a bit brownish.


ITEM P011: 1956 PEN AND INK AIR MAIL FROM GEMANY (25):

A collection of approximately 25 hand pen and inked letters from 1956, 
sent in air mail envelopes from Germany.  Most envelopes still have wide
assortment of German stamps Seems like different stamps and different 
numbers of stamps on each envelop.  


ITEM P012: SEARS AND ROEBUCK CHECK FOR 8 CENTS:

Estimated at mid 1950's, this official Sears and Roebuck check for 8 
cents comes with completed order forms and invoices to and from Sears.  
It lists $2.37 dress shirts, $6.88 mattresses, and $2.97 jackets.  No 
obvious marking which would void the check, so you might still be able 
to get cashed (haha).


ITEM P013:  GRAB BAG, MIXED AND ASSORTED PAPER:

1961 calender from Dover Savings and Loan; 1962 Shop Rite receipt; 1953 
calender card from First National Bank of Bloomingdale; 1955 Government 
Booklet - Your Social Security (44 pages); 1955 Employment Application 
for machinist, looks like a personal copy he filled out for records; 
1958/1959 used dry cleaning envelope / booklet, with bonus certificate; 
1958 First National Bank of Paterson personalized Credit Certificate
wallet card; 1942 Dieztgen Drafting calender and decimal conversion 
wallet card; 1957 Treasury Department envelop and 'NOTICE OF AWARD OF 
LUMP SUM DEATH PAYMENT'


ITEM P014: 1950s / 1960s MAPS AND CALANDERS:

Assorted maps and calenders from 1950s and 1960s, New Jersey, 
Pennsylvannia, Ontario, New York City, East Coast, Esso, Baltimore, 
etc..  Esso, Texaco, Gulf, insurance, etc..

ITEM P015: 1960s ONTARIO TOURIST PAPER:

This large packet contains numerous maps and pamphlets for tourist 
attractions in Ontario.  including 1963 Angling in Ontario, Forts, the 
Falls, etc.  Check out the prices on the menu from The Dutch Village 
Restaurant - Entrees: $1.70, Milk: 12 cents, Grill Cheese: 35 cents., 
etc.
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~ CMPQwk #1.42-R2~ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY

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The Michael Lang Paper Auction:

                       >>>> U P D A T E ! ! ! <<<<

Auction ends October 1st, 1995 (Sunday at midnight)
Bids accepted in order received
All costs $US.
Buyer pays shipping
No revoking bids, you bid, you buy.
For more complete descriptions please write me.

ATTENTION:  IN ORDER TO PREVENT LAST MINUTE BID STEALING, THE MINIMUM 
BID INCREMENT HAS BEEN RAISED FOR ALL FIRST TIME BIDDERS!!! 

ONCE YOU HAVE A VALID BID ACCEPTED BY ME (ON ANY ITEM), YOU MAY PROCEED 
TO ENTER ADDITIONAL BIDS ON ANY ITEMS AT THE REDUCED MINIMUM BID 
INCREMENT.  UNTIL THAT TIME, ANY BIDS YOU PLACE MUST MEET THE FIRST TIME
BIDDERS MINUMUM BID INCREMENT!

THIS IS TO PROTECT MY CUSTOMERS WHO ENTER BIDS EARLY, ONLY TO BE 
BEATEN OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE BY LURKERS.

FIRST TIME BIDDERS, MINIMUM INCREMENT: $5.00, ANY ITEM.

Minimum increment for items under $10 = 50 cents
Minimum increment for items $10 and over = $1.00

(And yes, this means you can bid on any item which is currently not bid 
on for the minimum bid listed, and then raise any other bid per the 
reduced increment.)

*Here's a tip... Items 1 is still a steal.  This really ought to go.*
  

Item P001: (1930s?) Life Insurance / X-mas Carol Booklet:  $5    min
Item P002: 1924 New Jersey Motor Vehicle Act:              $5.50 (HUTCH)
Item P003: 1937 World Atlas / International Gazetteer:     $4    min
Item P004: 1947 ALCOA Aluminum and its Properties:         $3    min
Item P005: 1957 Gulf Oil Calorie Counter Premium:          $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P006: (1940s?) Quaker Oats Premium, McCalls Sewing:   $5 (ROBERTO)
Item P007: 1951 Chevrolet Owners Service Policy:           $3  (HARRIS)
Item P008: 1951 DELCO Battery Owners Service Policy:       $2 (ODUMPER)
Item P009: 1946/1947 Machinist Paycheck Stubs (approx 25): $3  (HARRIS)
Item P010: 1945 WWII Air Force ID Card:                    $5    min
Item P011: 1956 Pen and Ink Air Mail Letters from Germany: $5  (SNICH)
Item P012: (1950s?)Sears and Roebuck Check for 8 cents:    $4 (ROBERTO)
Item P013: Grab Bag, mixed and assorted paper:             $3    min
Item P014: 1950s / 1960s Maps and Calenders:               $15(SOLOMON)
Item P015: 1960s Ontario Tourist Paper:                    $3 (ODUMPER)

Thank you,

Michael Lang
michael.lang@syncomm.com


ITEM P001: LIFE INSURANCE / XMAS CAROL BOOKLET:

John Hancock Mutual Life Insurance Company of Boston Massachusetts 
Christmas Carol Booklet (4.5 inches x 6.0 inches x 16 pages) with pen 
and colored inks hand drawing on front/rear cover showing church screen.
Says Issue No. 115 on the last page.  Has a few pair of staple holes 
around perimeter, but they have pretty much closed back up.  Has been 
estimated at about 1930, but no guarantees on that.


ITEM P002: 1924 NEW JERSEY MOTOR VEHICLE ACT:

This is the 1924 release of The Motor Vehicle Act of New Jersey together
with the Traffic Act.  It measures 6 inches by 9 inches by 75 pages and 
covers everything you need to know including using your whip; warrants 
served on Sunday; tree - horses not tied to, racing - when permitted, 
bells on your horse, and of course, all of the automobile information of
the age.  This thing is a RIOT!   Every page a gem.


ITEM P003: 1937 WORLD ATLAS / INTERNATIONAL GAZETTEER:

This booklet was released by the Paterson News and contains color maps 
as well as text description of the countries of the world.  It measures 
6 inches by 9 inches by 40 pages.  The booklet also contains a list of 
other Home Institute booklets available for 15 cents a copy, including
how to Interpret Your Dreams, Social Dancing - Self Taught, and You can 
be Popular.  This booklet is number 54 of the series.


ITEM P004: 1947 ALCOA ALUMINUM AND ITS PROPERTIES:

This spring bound book was published by ALCOA, the Aluminum Company of 
America.  It gives both general information about aluminum, as well as 
table of machinist and engineering data.  The book measures 5.5 inches 
by 8.25 inches by 154 pages.  Small amount of scuffing on cover.


ITEM P005: 1957 GULF OIL CALORIE COUNTER PREMIUM:

The Gulf Calorie Counter Premium provides an ingenious means of allowing
the user to monitor their calorie intake during the day.  A wheel is 
turned every time any entry is made.  The wheel keeps a running total of
the days entries.  Mailed out to customers from privately owned gas 
stations... this one came from Marty's Gulf Service in Bloomingdale NJ. 
The counter measures 4.25 inches by 4.25 inches, plus the fold out 
wheel.


ITEM P006: QUAKER OATS PREMIUM, McCALLS SEWING:
This Quaker Oats Premium consists of a folder sewing pattern: The 
McCalls Party Apron.  The pattern was design by Luis Estevez.  The 
patterns is unused.


ITEM P007: 1951 CHEVROLET OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

The formal and distinguished look of this tri-fold owner service policy 
(fancy money green border on white page with black type) really sets it 
apart.  It is neatly typed and twice signed in pen and ink by the 
dealer.  It is dated 1951 and carries engine numbers, serial numbers, 
and key numbers.It measures 8.5 inches by 3.75 inches as properly 
folded.


ITEM P008: 1951 DELCO BATTERY OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

Similar to item P007, only slightly less striking, this Delco Owners 
Warranty and Adjustment Service Policy is neatly typed.  It was for a 
battery in a 1951 Chevy Pick-up.


ITEM P009: 1946/1947 MACHINIST PAYCHECK STUBS (approx 25):

These pen and ink hand completed pay stubs were issued by the 
Newfoundland Machine Shop.  Also included, (2) business cards from the 
same era, one from the Newfoundland Machine Shop, the other from 
Faitoute Iron and Steel Company, and what appears to be the empty 
envelope from a Christmas Bonus!


ITEM P010: 1945 WWII AIR FORCE ID CARD:

Measuring 2.5 inches by 3.5 inches, this card was issued to Col. Scherer
served honorably and well in the united states armed forces in WWII with
the 2536th AAF Base Unit  The card, while quite legible and in good 
sturdy shape, is aged as if was carried around in a wallet for many 
years, and is a bit brownish.


ITEM P011: 1956 PEN AND INK AIR MAIL FROM GEMANY (25):

A collection of approximately 25 hand pen and inked letters from 1956, 
sent in air mail envelopes from Germany.  Most envelopes still have wide
assortment of German stamps Seems like different stamps and different 
numbers of stamps on each envelop.  


ITEM P012: SEARS AND ROEBUCK CHECK FOR 8 CENTS:

Estimated at mid 1950's, this official Sears and Roebuck check for 8 
cents comes with completed order forms and invoices to and from Sears.  
It lists $2.37 dress shirts, $6.88 mattresses, and $2.97 jackets.  No 
obvious marking which would void the check, so you might still be able 
to get cashed (haha).


ITEM P013:  GRAB BAG, MIXED AND ASSORTED PAPER:

1961 calender from Dover Savings and Loan; 1962 Shop Rite receipt; 1953 
calender card from First National Bank of Bloomingdale; 1955 Government 
Booklet - Your Social Security (44 pages); 1955 Employment Application 
for machinist, looks like a personal copy he filled out for records; 
1958/1959 used dry cleaning envelope / booklet, with bonus certificate; 
1958 First National Bank of Paterson personalized Credit Certificate
wallet card; 1942 Dieztgen Drafting calender and decimal conversion 
wallet card; 1957 Treasury Department envelop and 'NOTICE OF AWARD OF 
LUMP SUM DEATH PAYMENT'


ITEM P014: 1950s / 1960s MAPS AND CALANDERS:

Assorted maps and calenders from 1950s and 1960s, New Jersey, 
Pennsylvannia, Ontario, New York City, East Coast, Esso, Baltimore, 
etc..  Esso, Texaco, Gulf, insurance, etc..

ITEM P015: 1960s ONTARIO TOURIST PAPER:

This large packet contains numerous maps and pamphlets for tourist 
attractions in Ontario.  including 1963 Angling in Ontario, Forts, the 
Falls, etc.  Check out the prices on the menu from The Dutch Village 
Restaurant - Entrees: $1.70, Milk: 12 cents, Grill Cheese: 35 cents., 
etc.
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~ CMPQwk #1.42-R2~ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY

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MICHAEL LANG (michael.lang@syncomm.com) wrote in rec.games.vectrex:
>ITEM P008: 1951 DELCO BATTERY OWNER SERVICE POLICY:

>Similar to item P007, only slightly less striking, this Delco Owners 
>Warranty and Adjustment Service Policy is neatly typed.  It was for a 
>battery in a 1951 Chevy Pick-up.

Did that have anything to do with the rumored VectrexBoy?

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From: eg1n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eli Goldberg)
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> [Interesting information about Vectrex 3D deleted to save space. ;-]

Actually, has anyone checked out the demo unit of the Nintendo "Virtual
Boy" at various electronic stores like Circuit City that's being hyped to
death in the media?

I checked it out for 5 minutes...the one game running on it was in all one
color (red --- cheaper than 3 colors ;), vector-scanned style graphics
doing pseudo 3-D...and all I could think of was..."Hey, neat!!!  That's
just like...umm... what my Vectrex did...err...13 years ago!"

;)

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